Metemponychosis

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  1. Metemponychosis

    Princess Celestia Fan Club

    So, has anyone here read the first issue of the Legends of Magic comics? I'd like some solid opinions from Celestia's fans before I put money in this comic. Initially, from the stuff I've read, It looks bad for Celestia.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    There's so much that is wrong with this episode I wish I had my pc unpacked already so I could type everything down.
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    Queen Chrysalis Fan Club

    I wish I could see this on the screen.
  4. Hands down, Princess Celestia for me. One of the worst characters in the show, one of the best in fanfiction, where you can find authors that care about the character and don't hatte for whatever reason.
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    First Teaser Out

    Meh... I love the visuals, though.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    I see. Not that different from mine. Curious that we disagree on stuff like the Tree.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    Nuke, I'm a bit confused. What is your definition of headcanon? By the way, this discussion was a bit long. It's your thread. Is it bothering you? Right off the bat, I'm going to say that I didn't like that Daring Do is a real pony and not a fictional character. But that didn't stop me from enjoying several parts of this episode. Which is why I agree with almost all points made in this review. Also... Rainbow Dash is a damn hero. Daring Do ought to be fangirling over her too. Which is also something that neither of them should be doing in that situation.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    Star Wars was big for me, growing up, but I hadn't developed a "rational sense" for watching things and really thinking about them. Also, the Internet wasn't really important to me at the time. So I guess I missed the drama about Boba Fett. Ironically, Knowing the guy just made him better in my eyes. I actually think that his origin was a nice thing. I really don't see the problem. Sounds more like people complaining that their headcanon got rejected. About the tree, different people will draw different lines for this stuff. And I think that explained backgrounds are a huge part of what makes a character live. That should be obvious with my opinion on Starlight Glimmer. The way it is now, the Tree doesn't feel like a mastermind to me. It feels like a plot device. But that is me: unless we're talking about fanfiction, headcanon is the least thing that interest me. Being fully honest? Not really. Which is why I don't mind the episodes that start because of it. But it's a cop-out. A fictional story already is a series of contrivances. Adding another that does absolutely nothing to the characters, not advancing them... It's about personal opinions, like everything we discuss here, with the exception of some really glaring stuff, it's all to each one's opinions. If you asked me, it's a cop-out and excuses the writer from creating more interesting scenarios that take character motivations into account and may even advance them. Also, personally, I can think of a reason to remove it: give back to Celestia the "quest-giver" status. It would show that she's involved and cares. Only if you want. I can't deal with grades. EDIT: I forgot to say that I agree with all the rest.
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    Princess Celestia Fan Club

    That is it. This image, in that context has made my night. I'm ready to end the day in a high note.
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    What if the movie dissapoints you?

    They'd have to try really hard for the movie to disappoint me: I already have very little expectations of it. If it actually happens, whatever... I'm here for the cartoon, anyway.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    I'm glad I'm not alone in this. This pisses me off too. I see your point. I just feel that it is unbelievably childish and petty for her to feel all that guilt over something that she wanted to do but never even managed to come close. It comes way too close to thought crime for my tastes. Well... The bottom line is that Luna is like a teenager that needs to grow up... But it grates me that ponies are afraid of her. Eh... MLP being MLP, I guess. Definitively not a bad thing. I'm just tired that it seems that it is all there is to Celestia (other than those quirks... That she likes cake and that she's the "nice member of nobility"). Like I said, Celestia isn't her own character, this way, she's just Luna's foil. The way I said it, it looked like I think that it doesn't matter, but in reality, you're right. It's only a problem because she lacks an actual "sense of existing for herself". Wow. I didn't see that at all. The way I saw it, Twilight was entirely used as a ladder for Starlight Glimmer, and not the other way around. Specially because Twilight didn't need her to be a teacher. Not that I think that Twilight didn't look good while being used for Starlight Glimmer, but the later was entirely unneeded. I won't disagree that it was probably the intention, but... Man, did they miss the mark. In my opinion, of course. But this is likely the cause. Well, different people will different lines between gradients of content. To some, a mystery is content that is lacking. To me, you need a lot more to make something a mystery. The way it is, the Tree just looks like something they thought would look cool rather than something that really had a place and reason to exist in the story. An excuse, rather than a reason. It's the reason everything exists in this cartoon, at a bare level. We say that it's good writing when they go beyond this and give these things life. It's what writers are supposed to do. Giving life to these things is what people say makes MLP better than other cartoons of it's ilk and lack of it is what created the stigma of "kid's stuff" in the media. This is why I dislike the tree. It's quirky, like everything McCarthy did in the cartoon. It's crystal-y. It has Celestia's, Luna's and Twilight's cutie marks on it. It created the elements. But I don't see a mystery, just a shallow quirk. But good for you. It just makes me enjoy the cartoon less. I, on the other hand, have no problem saying that something is bad until it becomes something that I can say is good. This is how I feel about the map. Right now, it's just a way to put characters where the writer wants them without having to actually come up with reasons for them to be there. Considering Cadance's magic, I'd find Twilight's "friendship magic" easier to take than the map. Specially with Luna and her dream magic. But it would work the same way the map does. No real need for her to be there, as she doesn't need to in order for the ponies to fix whatever problem the map has suddenly become aware of. I get you. As far as "bad Pinkies" can go I think this one was one of the least offending. It's definitively there... Just... Tame. Good one... I need to give it some thought.
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    Princess Celestia Fan Club

    Makes all the sense in the world to me.
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    Princess Celestia Fan Club

    This reminds me of a scene from that cartoon, Aeon Flux...
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    Yes. But I'm talking about a different thing: Celestia is a character that is present at the very beginning of the cartoon, so it's okay for the author to build the character out of nothing. So, her background is that she is the teacher, the ruler, etc... That excuses her being very powerful. That allows the writer to give her a series of motivations. What I meant is that I can't see any viable excuse for them to take Starlight Glimmer, make her an all powerful unicorn that makes powerful magic and even without her magic can help solve "the problem", and them avoid doing exactly the same with Celestia. For reasons. I am lost comparing Starlight Glimmer and Celestia: they don't want Celestia to look too powerful and solve problems, while at the same time they make Starlight Glimmer very powerful ans capable of solving problems. Specially when, by it's present background, Celestia is already acceptable doing that, while Starlight Glimmer looks like someone's OC, with a shallow background that doesn't justify neither her abilities or motivations. Seriously,if Celestia and Starlight Glimmer fought, I wouldn't be surprised if SG wiped the floor with Celestia. It makes no sense, on either end. I feel the episode didn't give Nightmare Moon time to do bad things so that Luna would feel bad about them later. And this is what I meant when I complained about Celestia's talk with Twilight. Celestia doesn't feel because of herself. She feels because of Luna. When the papers invert, Luna doesn't give a fuck about Celestia, because her story is about herself, while Celestia's is about Luna. This is why I HATE that people define Celestia with her fight with Luna. And not only is this all over Celestia's participation, but even that the cartoon managed to botch. Oh. I thought that you knew something that I didn't. That came out wrong. What I meant is that Twilight's relationship with her friends is a "lost oportunity". Not that I would appreciate if Twilight started treating her friends differently, but adding the title, the wings and the castle didn't make any difference. For example: suppose that she had just "graduated" from her studies, never became a princess and all the rest; she still could be SG's teacher. What I mean, is that Twilight is a good teacher because she's Twilight Sparkle, the pony that learned about friendship, not because she's suddenly a princess and has a castle. Independent of whatever their relationship was made appropriately or not. The only thing, in my eyes, and with few exceptions, Twilight's ascension did was make her Celestia's and Luna's equal. If she wasn't, Celestia would be doing all the "princess things" that "non-princess Twilight" wasn't doing. But now that they are equals, the cartoon ought to show why is it that Twilight does all the things that she does, but Celestia doesn't. I don't know if I'm explaining my point clearly... But in a way, Twilight becoming a princess hurts Celestia's place and doesn't add much to Twilight's. I stand corrected. But it doesn't explain. All it does is "move the goalpost". We still don't know anything much about the elements because we don't know anything about the tree. The sisters just found it. Conveniently. Now, I'll be fair, my love for the nordic mythology did tingle with the idea of the tree, but it ended up way too underdeveloped for my taste. You're marveled at your imagination about the tree, not the tree itself. The only reason the Elements felt "used" is because the producers didn't give them reason to be different. We're talking about magic, they could've explored the actual elements in any way, say that they are anything they wanted and it would've been fine. Dude, Twilight is a scientist. Why didn't we see Twilight ACTUALLY messing with them? Testing, learning, and in the process, teaching the audience what they were. How did they work. How did they relate to those six ponies. The way it is now, the elements turned out to be just a big stick to beat someone over the head with. And then, what is the point of taking them away, if they'd be just replaced with another "rainbow cannon" that is about as deep as they were, specially when they finally explored what make those ponies special AFTER they removed the Elements that defined them. To me, complaining that the Elements were overused amounts to the same as complaining that soldiers shoot each other too much in war movies. And then have soldiers shoot each other by pointing their fingers at one another and saying that their "warrior spirit" is killing their enemies. The map, until they explain how the hell it works, is just a lazy way to get the ponies to go to a place without having to think of a reason for them to go. It would be better if Twilight had some sort of "princess friendship sense" that told her where to send which of her minions friends. Compared to Cadance's love voodoo, this isn't that bad. Bottom line, My Little Pony doesn't go deep enough on it's own lore to make it interesting for me. Just a thing now: this is just my opinion. If you like the tree, good for you. But you an see I didn't like that episode... I don't like that scene with the alicorn magic because they just reused the asset for dark magic. It makes no sense that alicorn magic is inherently evil. Celestia is an alicorn and she does magic all the time and it only looks like that when she was emulating Sombra's magic. I could see that there was some sort of philosophical point about that particular kind of magic, if it hadn't died that scene. It never comes back. What was the point? I think that they wanted it to look different and their laziness made people think that alicorn magic is evil for no reason at all. WTF? Again... You can see that I didn't like that episode. I'll just wait for the next episode. I'm more interested in season 7 than I was about season 5. Though not by much... I'm in just for the pony and the stories of their little adorable lives. Personally, there's nothing that makes me think that this first episode is going to be much better than openers usually are.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    That it is pretentious is your opinion. It's one of many interpretations of the same event. Different people will like different things. My favorite always was the idea that Luna shut Celestia off and try as she might, Luna wouldn't let her in to help. Or maybe Celestia didn't know how to help. Didn't realize that Luna was in trouble. That it puts more effort, yes. The sad thing is that both, as far as the cartoon is concerned, are extremes. A whole season opener, with two episodes, likely would feel rushed if it wanted to do most of what people made of the event. A middle ground where the event was used for effect in telling it's story, would've been perfect. But clearly outside the intentions of what the producers want for the cartoon. EDIT: When I mentioned those things, I meant that they are different ideas of how things happened in those stories. Not as a single story where Luna's suffering is to blame on Celestia's glory. If you ask me, anything would've been better than Nightmare Moon wiping the floor with Celestia who just flew around, the typical magical laser, not a single word and an escalation that sent "temper tantrum" to "magical nuke" in seconds.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    Do you feel like they're doing that with Starlight Glimmer? Because the only difference between SG and Celestia is that Celestia is the ruler, the one that actually has background reasons to be very powerful. If that is what DHX says, it's a very bad excuse. To be fair, the problem with Celestia can be fixed. Though it's going to look like a band-aid over a wide and deep cut. Though I guess that the problem are the meanings of words. "Fixing", to me, implies, making it right and justifying the past problems in a way that they make sense. If they just start to "treat her right", it's a huge step in the right direction, but we'd still have a problem. You mention showing the sides to Celestia's character. But we already have that. The problem is that none of that will make sense until Celestia stops being an useless, unneeded add-on to the cartoon's universe. The cartoon can show Celestia's sense of humor, her preferences, things that she dislikes and how ponies see her; and all that is good, but until we see her the same way the characters in the show do, justifying her position and status, she's going to look like an unneeded add-on that could be removed at any time and no one would feel her loss. Except the fans... I'm very satisfied with Luna. She's not perfect as a character, and people will always have different reasons to complain about a character. I feel that her doing her job is part of her redemption: she's helping now. I think that the huge problem with Luna is that Nightmare Moon didn't have time to deserve all the guilt that Luna suffered. But I at least feel like she has a place to occupy. Something that defines her that doesn't need to invoke the old "implied", "supposed to". My problem with Luna is in Princess Twilight Sparkle. Why do you say that? Now... About the next episode... I had a huge list of complaints that I wanted to share... But... Too big, and I lost because the wifi decided it wanted to crash. I'm not going to re-write the whole thing. But... Let's be fair and say that when something is good, it is. The problem is that this is what also makes Twilight's new role feel empty. If it makes no difference, I don't see any difference and don't see the impact. Discord is always fun. It was just an excuse to take the Elements away from the girls. Also, I'm always amazed at how Celestia ALWAYS have something to say, except when the author needs a mystery. Then she's dumb as stick. The tree, as a concept, is just another mystery that will never be explained because it's as shallow as Meghan McCarthy's imagination. Of course... She was talking about Luna. Celestia is never a character about herself. It's always about an old teacher, Luna, whoever... An exposition device, a plot device. Never a character on itself. And this is what I was talking about. Until that episode comes, Celestia is a repository of shallow lore and characterization of other characters. At best, she has a bit of characterization because of other characters. I have a whole metal opera about this event on my smartphone and several songs filled with sorrow, glory and regret about this event. I have countless words in fan-fiction about a gruesome and bloody war of attrition between two deities, stories about Luna's descent into madness or growing jealousy. Of Celestia's prideful ascension and guilt-ridden crash into reality or despaired attempts to reach into her sister's sorrow. Attempts at reasoning, calls to love for their blood, Stories from the perspective of panicked nobility and terrified commoners caught in a conflict of cosmic proportions where the very simple, basic, cycle of order of their life is shattered because harmony was broken between the two alicorns and divine magic torn their world. This event should be something of legendary proportions. Meghan McCarthy turned it into seconds of a shallow, sappy, empty, undeserved and appellative tearjerker. It was a broken and unneeded, ineffective scene. Didn't come close to saving this episode to me. Discord being a dick, making fun of Celestia, being the cause of so much trouble after being "reformed". Also, that lazy as hell "alicorn magic". I'll fight Jim Miller on the street if he can say that it wasn't lazy. To me, this episode deserves a BURN IT WITH FIRE AND THROW IT ON MCCARTHY WITH LIQUID OXYGEN AND KEROSENE/10. This is the episode that convinced me that I'd never see Season one's Celestia ever again. Also, thank whatever god you believe in that this cartoon has episodes between openers and finales. They are what make this cartoon worth it.
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    Product placement.

    What? A Diet Coke ad inside the cartoon? Only if made as parody.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    We both. For the sake of discussion, though, becoming a princess was a bit far-fetched, for the sake of using the same words. Twilight could've become something like an archmage. Something like Sunburst is in the crystal Empire. An official title of sorts. However, I was wrong when I said that Twilight becoming a princess had no weight later. I'll talk about them when we get to them. There is no question, though, that far-fetched or not, Twilight becoming a princess didn't hurt the cartoon as a whole. Specially when remembering that writers aren't perfect. Losing her aura of invincibility wasn't necessarily a problem. The problem, I think today, is that Twilight's thoughts on the event should've been made available to the audience. The only character that really knows Celestia is Twilight (of course, assuming they were close; which was not necessarily the case). Not even Luna. The only reason Celestia was perceived as powerful (or invincible) is because part of the audience thought she was. If at the time Twilight had acknowledged what happened in some way or, through the seasons, called Celestia on her incapacity to actually DO anything, the brunt of the damage Celestia took would be softened. It would've given the authors a way to explain why is it that Celestia is important, even though she doesn't seem to be. At least in my eyes, she doesn't need to be ├╝ber powerful to still be indispensable for Equestria. The thing, I think, is that in the authors' collective heads, Celestia isn't indispensable, isn't powerful. It's possible that Twilight and Celestia never really were close. After all, some of us (myself) did think of Celestia as god-like once, and were wrong. Does that change anyone's perception of Celestia? I think that the most likely possibility, though, is that Celestia is powerful, is very important, but the IP owners and the people that produce the cartoon don't care about actually showing that. Because they know how to... But you're more optimistic than I. I think that they destroyed Celestia as a character and the best we'll ever get of her are one or two scenes where she does or says something nice and then goes back to being the writer's punchbag and exposition device she they made her. Pff... It sounds like I'm talking about a friend that got screwed by their boss. And Luna is the opposite of Celestia, most of the time. Literally everything they've done wrong with Celestia, they've done right with Luna. It almost makes me think that it was intentional. Ironically, Luna had less than Celestia when she returned. They made up her dream power, because co-ruling the country with Celestia isn't enough. And they repeat the same idea twice; and then, give Luna real redemption for her past (which they still managed to destroy, anyway... But that is for another discussion). Seriously. I fully expect Celestia to go Nightmare Star at some point, only to have Luna banish her to the sun and then rule Equestria for a very explicit and solid golden age of a thousand years. I don't know if I'm fooling myself saying that the people that make this cartoon know what they're doing. I liked King Sombra. I just think that it was lazy as all hell. I like villains with simple motivations. I think that Discord was a much bigger threat, but the cartoon took Sombra a lot more seriously and that is what made him work. Though, I have a problem taking villains seriously when the "heroes" suck so hard. You can see why I think that Celestia needs to be well written, for the sake of the worldbuilding. Trixie is Trixie. Trixie defies definitions. Babs Seed... Is another example that makes me think that I give these people too much credit. And I also liked her in Apple Family Reunion. She and Applebloom made a very cute pair. Enough said. Personally, I'm yet to see his redemption complete. Traitors don't get the benefit of the doubt. Selfish reasons to do good don't count as "redemption". I need to see that he'll choose between self-gain and the greater good and not betray everyone again. Though he does fit the definition of anti-hero, and that was done well in later seasons. I just don't like him. And I'm still waiting to see the uses Celestia has for his magic. Because that backfired phenomenally. Maybe Celestia ought to be retired and Twilight be put in her place. Maybe she could die with some dignity... Yeah... Right... Finally, excellent round of reviews.
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    If the show was hand drawn instead of rigged

    It's also made by different people. I don't know, for example, how many animators both shows can count with, or how used they are to tneir tools.
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    If the show was hand drawn instead of rigged

    I could be wrong, but flash is used because it makes the animators' life easier. I think that the quality of hand drawn would be heavily dependent on the skill and time the animators have. Considering that MLP launches a season a year, I think that hand-drawn would either make it lose quality or take longer to produce.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    There isn't one person in the fandom that doesn't understand that, Nuke. But that is still bad writing if it doesn't impact the character in a meaningful way. Whatever it did or not, I think is up to each one's perceptions. I'm happy that there is more pony, though. So, it's a mixed blessing for me? Like Cadance. I like her, but you know what I think about the number of alicorns and princesses. I think that Twilight was wonderful as a teacher. Both for her experience as a teacher, and for her being a teacher. An episode dedicated to them, sitting and talking was everything I've ever asked for Twilight and Celestia. And the good thing is that there's still room for more. It wasn't perfect, of course, but I think that the problem was on SG's part. I have to make all sorts of mental gymnastics just to not think of her as a villain. Wel... New season coming in, and I'm excited for it. It's true. The problem with Ponyville in the episode really could be fixed with more time. You're right. I don't think that she should know that the spell would target her friends and the elements. I think that coming out of a supposedly elite teaching institution, where she was the personal student from the Princess, Twilight unwittingly activating the spell is similar to a doctor prescribing two drugs that knowingly interact badly. Unless, of course, spells that activate like that are rare. Like I said, it was the first time the show introduced the idea. The problem is that the cartoon never says it is or isn't.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    Maybe I'm not seeing something. How exactly being an alicorn made a difference there?
  23. I get the feeling I'm going to like this episode. No, not because Twilight may send SG away. Because they're going to keep exploring the changelings and because... Well, Celestia is talking to Twilight, by herself, and it isn't about the end of the world. If only they weren't talking about SG, it would be perfect.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    I love this episode for the songs and for the idea of Twilight "graduating". I just hate the fact that it amounted to almost nothing. This is what I was complaining before. To this day, I don't see a reason why Twilight needed to be a princess, because there was nothing she's ever done after that needed her to be a princess or an alicorn. Hell, the most powerful character in this cartoon, that isn't a draconequus, is a plain unicorn. Being a princess or an alicorn means nothing to Twilight, despite the dialogue always implying that it does. This is a problem with the following episodes, but it would be kinda awkward to mention this every time and it's really because this episode setup something that amounted to nothing, in my opinion. If the series ended here, it would've been perfect to me. Other than that, I think that the notion of the whole town falling apart because a few ponies aren't doing their jobs is... Let's say contrived. Rainbow Dash isn't the only pegasus that works climate. Why is Rarity ruining the the whole thing by herself? But I suppose that this is part of the whole visual identity of the episode. It's a musical and not a typical episode and it needs this sort of visual to help the songs carry the story along. Because of this, it's nature as a musical, I don't think that it was rushed. Maybe I'm not being imaginative enough, but I feel like that if they had extended this episode further, they'd have ran out of stuff to show. Also, this is the first time (I think) the show introduces a spell that you activate by reading it aloud. Maybe the idea of the rhyme goes with the musical theme, but it felt a bit off to me. Not only because of that, but because I'd imagine that Twilight wouldn't be that careless. Unless spells like that are rare and Twilight shouldn't expect it to activate just by reading it. Celestia's manipulation isn't a problem for me. Because I find it easy to assume that she knew what she was doing, trusting Twilight would come out of this on top. Kinda like in the premiere, and also with the same problem that the writer didn't really know how to deal with the idea. The problem, as usual with her, is the lack of a clear motivation for her actions and an acknowledgment that she knows what she's doing when she's messing with others and that her intention is their well being. But I think that saying that Celestia "wanted" a new princess is wrong. The feeling I got is that this is out of Celestia's control and her role in it is simply guiding the other towards realizing their own destiny. What I think is really beautiful for Celestia, as a teacher. Though it needed more care on the part of the writers as a whole. Not just Larson in this episode. I mean, I think that it is a problem with the series as a whole, not just here. I'm now going to take a few tablets of passiflora in preparation for next episode. Maybe some acetaminophen to be on the safe side...
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    Equestria and Ancient Greek influence

    I actually think it's easy. MLP is a simple cartoon. It doesn't need a huge political setup. Just someone doing something wrong and someone (our princess, or the mayor) doing something about it. Especially in a cartoon about moral ideals and lessons, this would be easy. I think someone with some creativity would do wonders for this subject. It's easier for the princess, especially if she is "the ruler" and laws bend to her will, if she deems it necessary to intervene. Of course, the normal function wouldn't be subject for a story, but through something going wrong, you can show how they're supposed to be when all is normal. Yeah... The animals feel weird. But I'd be fine with cows going "Hey... We ponies can keep us safe and fed in exchange for livelihood. Cool!" It would be a typical symbiotic relationship. The good thing about fiction is that things that wouldn't work in reality can work. Like a godlike queen that cares for her subjects, expecting nothing but friendship and cooperation from them. Maybe she'd understand that union and harmony leads to prosperity and security. You know... "For the common good." But that is just my opinion, and maybe this idea is what made Celestia "wrong" in someone's head.