Metemponychosis

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    Equestria and Ancient Greek influence

    I forgot to add: How would you SHOW your idea in the cartoon, or comics?
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    Equestria and Ancient Greek influence

    I didn't remember that. Maretonia or Maredonia. So, I guess I goofed too. The problem is that, in the practical sense, there isn't a difference from the kind of hierarchy that you're invoking with the greek hegemony and the typical political structure that we see between estate (or federal, depending on the particular country) government and municipal administration today. Well, of course there is a difference, but the practical result is very similar. It wasn't something particular to greek city-states. One can say that the formation of modern countries after the Bronze Age is the result of that, in a loose way. The reason a city-state would have a reduced autonomy in the greek city-states is because their hegemon would be taking resources from them in exchange of military protection (or the pure promise that they, themselves, wouldn't destroy them). And that isn't too distant from the tiered government system that most countries have today. The point of a federal government would be to receive taxes and, in exchange, return resources in the form of regulations and various forms of assistance when things go south. Today, towns and states take part in the government or higher instances via representation, the difference is obvious, but not apparent. What I'm saying, is that, unless the cartoon (or comics) delve deeper in the politics between towns and the two systems are practically indistinguishable. Looking from the outside. So, Ponyville could be a town under Canterlot's jurisdiction, a town with jurisdiction over villages around it, or it could be an independent city-state that is under Canterlot. The problem is that is that I find it hard to believe that a town would need protection in current Equestria. Maybe in the past, like I said in another post, during the time of the tribes, I'd find it easier to accept the idea of the city-states. I can't remember exactly why, but in "The Good, The Bad and The Pony" arc in the comics, they slightly brush on the politics of what a princess does and what she's supposed to do. I remember it was a convoluted bulshit that was one of the reasons I stopped reading the comics because it made no sense and in the end what Twilight didn't want to do is what ends up saving the day when there is a paper signed by Celestia and Luna that says that the obvious solution is the good one. In one of the FF issues, the one with Spike and Luna, the princess is on Manehattan investigating something that happened in the night because it's her jurisdiction, but she's utterly ineffective and the comic is just making fun of the fact that they do stuff that others have to fix later. Both imply that the princesses do serve a purpose, but i don't think that it's clear which. And I don't think that the producers have a clear idea either and this is why I think that canon is overrated in fanfiction... Fans often care about these things more than the IP holders. Which is why I like this conversation. The problem is that we don't have enough information about how Equestria's government works, if there even is one unified government. The comics and the intro for the first episode seem to imply that there is and that happens in Canterlot, with Celestia and Luna as very influential political figures. Ergo, an absolutist diarchy. But I don't have a clue how Cadance and Twilight fit into that, and the writing in the show and cartoon ruin any legitimacy they may have as decent rulers. Another thing that I think about the princesses, based on canon, is that they aren't really rulers, but rather protectors. Which they also fail as because the writing tends to be asinine. Luna's job as guardian of dreams give this idea a good leverage, but Celestia's incapacity to act as such doesn't. Though Cadance and Twilight certainly fill this role, they too suffer from the same problem as Celestia sometimes. My points about Celestia and Luna don't really help your position because my position is "we don't know either way". If Equestria was ruled by a council of representatives, or by individual, local, rulers that could listen or not to that council (or the princesses), I think it would've been very hard for Celestia to get up one day and decide that she wanted to free Discord. This is the problem with the cartoon: it doesn't know what Celestia and the princesses are. It doesn't know who or what rules Equestria, or if it knows, it deviates from that too much because of "author fiat". Something that only works because the author says it does. Now, before I say what I think is the most appropriate interpretation, i want to say that I don't think that being a horrible fighter makes Celestia a bad character, or that being a useless buffoon, or anything. My problem with Celestia is that I think she lacks ANY character. So, I won't be sad if the cartoon says that turns out Celestia is a useless moron, a figurehead with no political power whatsoever, or maybe she is Equestria's sun goddess, capable of turning the whole thing to ashes if she wanted, or any variation of those. Of course, I have my preferences, but that's not what this is about. This whole thing makes me think that MLP wants Equestria to be the absolutist diarchy with "extra" princesses under the big ones' wings. I think that MLP wants the audience to see Celestia and Luna as the undisputed rulers, but they keep out of local business (as any government should until there is trouble that warrants intervention). Maybe next FF issue where Celestia and Luna have a disagreement (what a shock...) will shed some light on how these things work. But I won't hold my breath... The whole problem, really is the fact that Twilight is a princess and that Cadance exists. I think it's obvious that Ponyville, the Crystal Empire, Manehattan, Cloudsdale, etc... Are part of an entity that is Equestria. If it was just Celestia and Luna, then the whole ambiguity wouldn't exist. The only reason you think that Equestria may be formed by independent city-states is because we have two more princesses that don't seem to be subordinate to Celestia and Luna. But I don't have a clue what is Twilight's position as a princess. Some canon says that she could put down her hoof and tell others what to do, and other canon says that ponies don't need to give a damn about what she says. So, best interpretation, IMO, is this: Equestria is a unified nation, with a government body around the princesses that keep to themselves, letting their delegates do their job, until they need to act, overseeing local administrations from the top (with a clear picture of the whole) to make sure things are going as planned in the best interest of it's citizens. They just suck at that because MLP doesn't have a clue how to do it. I think that Canterlot is the administrative capital of the nation. It is, literally, the throne on the top of the world. If that place isn't some reference to Olympus and to Minas Tirith, I don't know what it is (going back to the original concept of Celestia). I think that the problem is that someone at Hasbro or DHX looked at Celestia and decided that they hated her. So she isn't the boss. The cartoon doesn't show a "boss". It just shows that the "common pony" gets things done. Does it support the idea that Equestria is formed with independent cities, or even regions? Maybe. It's not like the cartoon has given any evidence that what princesses say is law or is just a suggestion. The cartoon doesn't show any meeting of local leaders, just hints at meetings with leaders from other nations and pretends it knows what it's talking about. I'd like to see a clearer picture, as it's simple to do and would give a huge amount of worldbuilding with the rest of what we see. I'll keep my idea of what I'd like to see to myself because this is gone too big already, but suppose that you're right. Would this whole conversation change you idea of how princesses exist in this league of cities you saw? How do you see the whole government structure organized?
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    Equestria and Ancient Greek influence

    Something that I forgot that is important to the conversation about Celestia. Lauren Faust's intention was to portray Celestia as a combination of a powerful queen and of an Olympian deity (I prefer Nordic, Egyptian, Assyrian and protohystoric, but I have a particular love for sun-deities anyway...). The problem, in my head, is that to do that, you either show that there are all sorts of creatures like her that can pose a threat to her or you have her in an unassailable position of power. Both of them can be done in with the right storytelling techniques. Unfortunately, the production staff seems to lack either the intention or the talent to do either. So Celestia becomes a weird combination of what should be and writer abuse for the sake of the plot. Like I said... Celestia is really the only thing that really annoys me in the cartoon (I can live with the Starlight Glimmers and Flurry Hearts and idiotic plots). Even if the intention is put another character in the position of solving the conflicts and she keeps getting in the way because of her position, a few minutes of thinking and planing can solve this. The problem is that MLP always was just a children's cartoon that got a lot of attention because it did that very well. Then it became aware of it's fame...
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    Equestria and Ancient Greek influence

    Chill. These are the thoughts that erupted in my head because of what you said. Like you, I want to know what my thoughts do to you. Especially because I always assume that I can be wrong and I like knowing what others think about this stuff. You can speculate all you want and share all you want, but I, too, can say that you're seeing too much. I ignored the comics because I tend to think that they are secondary canon and I don't think you directly mentioned them. I can't remember that the ponies directly obeyed the princesses. I can safely say that they have some level of reverence (for lack of a better word... They feel more like celebrities to me) for the princesses, but I don't think I've ever seem the princesses order anyone around with the exception of when ponies are being idiots in Princess Twilight Sparkle. That is leadership, not necessarily a sign of hierarchic supremacy. But was Maredonia mentioned? The name? I can't remember. I remember the ponies you mean, but I can't remember that they were named as such. Yes, the comics did show that Ponyville chooses it's "leadership" in a democratic process. But because the franchise as a whole is just pretending to be interested in politics, it's very shallow. What we see in those issues (or single issue, can't remember) is a form of direct election. By the way, I'm pretty sure that the comics also show that there is a sort of government regulation over city adequation to regulations in the form of a representative of something. The fandom also says that Celestia is evil, fat, thinks of nothing but eating cake, is a troll, makes Luna's life a hell... The fandom says a lot of bulshit. The intro in the first episode says that they do, but that is never actually shown in the cartoon (or comics). Anyone having a high opinion of Twilight's judgement or ponies being in panic because they vanished doesn't say anything about their role in the government or society. This is partly why I say that Celestia is more like the japanese emperor. If he vanished, I'm pretty sure that people would freak, but that wouldn't break the government machine. Or Queen Elizabeth II nowadays. In the practical sense, she means nothing to the government. The journal says that both Luna and Celestia arrived in Equestria, or something like that, and ponies simply decided that they should be the princesses. In the book, Celestia mentions that she thinks of herself more like a defender (which she sucks at, anyway) than a ruler. But I think that this was AKR going out of her way to say that Celestia is humble.... Or something. The book is awful anyway. I remember Rarity swearing on Celestia's name, but this doesn't really mean much in my opinion. I don't really know. Their ability to move celestial bodies also doesn't mean much. Disconsidering the book, the cartoon mention that "unicorns" used to move the sun and the moon and that is it. It never mention any sort of special requirement. For Twilight to move the sun, all that was needed was Celestia transferring her magic to Twilight. Discord moves it nonchalantly. So it means nothing. In the book, it's said that unicorns lost their magic when they moved the sun and the moon and that the two gave it back to them. In another book "Princess Celestia and the Summer of Royal Waves", Celestia thanks the sun for letting her move it. So, I don't really know... She doesn't strike me as particularly god-like or politically powerful. To be fair, Celestia was built, in the beginning of the cartoon, as something important. So the notion of Celestia as an absolute ruler, regal and fair (queen in everything but title), isn't entirely out of nowhere, but I think this was washed away as the cartoon progressed. Celestia is the only thing in the cartoon that really annoys me. They don't seem to know what to do with her. I just want to say again that my intention wasn't to say that you're wrong, and your ideas suck, or anything remotely like that. The idea is just to exchange thoughts on the subject. Also, Daring Do isn't about meso-america. She's Indiana Jones. It's about how the entertainment media (mostly US) sees "meso-america". But that is a point about movie and book tropes, anyway... I understand what you mean. But why do you say medieval? Equestria always struck me more as renaissance. Depending on your school of thought, they overlap, even on very academic definitions, but for the sake of fictional aesthetic, they tend to be very different.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    Those are different, specially because Celestia's "influence" made no difference since it happened before we knew the character and that was Twilight's 'default' behavior, which supposedly, is wrong, because Cadance tries to fix it. But that is not the problem. Let me put it in another way: This is me being myself, bitching that Celestia loses more and more 'ground' in the cartoon's universe. This is bad character development, like Twilight becoming a princess. Cadance taught Twilight something that goes against a key component of Twilight's character. There are three ways this works: 1) Twilight changes and becomes less herself, which is a problem in this case because this messes with part of the comedic component of her character (which is a giant part of MLP since it is very shallow in other areas); 2) Twilight doesn't change because the status quo is the bottom line and what Cadance did doesn't really make a difference and gets forgotten; or 3) Twilight does it sometimes and it works sometimes but not really because Twilight must be funny (again, humor) and it becomes a quirk, not a character trait.
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    Equestria and Ancient Greek influence

    I'm very interested in this topic. I love talking about this. Makes sense as headcanon, but I feel like you're begging this point. How do you know that Manehattan and Ponyville are city-states based on canon? Ponyville does have a mayor but the cartoon hasn't touched on the electoral process and the fact that it has a mayor doesn't exclude the possibility that it's under estate legislation, along with whatever other towns exist in it's neighboring areas. in fact, this is what happens in most of the real world. We also don't know if that is the case for Manehattan and for other cities in Equestria. We don't know if the princesses have any administrative power over their cities and we don't know if Canterlot has a mayor, just like Ponyville, responsible for municipal administration of the city. I think that what you're saying matches more with the past. Is Maredonia even a think and I don't know of it? You're stretching. Especially using this example with Fluttershy. That was a good example of the cartoon being stupid rather than portraying a trait of their culture. Especially if you're later going to say that Twilight is a "ruler" but can't do anything about her friend being sold to another pony because Rainbow is a dumbass. This whole thing in that episode is so asinine... Maybe I'm wrong, because I just don't like this idea that one can be forced to follow an agreement by third parties without any say in it. Also, ponies didn't like what Sombra was doing to the crystal ponies. It comes too close. We don't know that. Like I said, Celestia may be more like the figure of the Emperor in Japan, during the Kamakura Period (I think); more like a spiritual leader than someone capable of any sort of executive or legislative power over the land. To be fair, I can't really say even that of Celestia. The same goes for Luna. Also, they didn't become the rulers of Equestria by overthrowing Discord. They already have their royal regalia at the time. The cartoon doesn't say how they became the rulers of Equestria. Why do people say this about Celestia? Shouldn't Cadance and Twilight receive this treatment too? Not to mention Flurry Heart, King Sombra and Queen Chrysalis? Lysander had festivals and offerings to his name. Phillip II I I had to research and like Lysander, it's the same kind of stretch, until I see that ponies are asking Celestia for intervention or something like making special offerings. Celestia is the most mundane thing in this cartoon. She bows her head to the nobility, is utterly incapable of defending herself and is completely unnecessary, as far as the cartoon has shown us. Phillip II and Lysander, and many kings in the victorian period at least had a lot of political leverage and even fought along their soldiers in wars. i don't think these comparisons fly. The problem with this kind of conversation is that MLP is very pauper and short-sighted with this sort of thing and clearly isn't building a cohesive world. Just shedding a few bits and pieces of "cool stuff" that don't really connect. It had a victorian feel of sorts, but that got drowned in modern stuff, and the same goes to all the references to greek mythology. It's just things that give an impression of depth. But that is just my opinion.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    This is one of those episodes that aren't really good, but I can't help loving it. It has a "charm" to it. It has good humor, but so much doesn't really make sense. I actually hated this. I thought that if that was to be "a thing", it ought to have been Celestia teaching that, while Twilight was a kid. Makes me wonder how bad of a mentor Celestia is that doesn't give a damn about Twilight's freaking out over stuff. Funny it only became an issue because they drew attention to it with Cadance. The thing is... It's part of what makes Twilight herself. You don't mess with these because you raise that kind of questions and risk breaking your character or making the whole thing irrelevant.
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    Who had the best S6?

    Starlight Glimmer... I'm sure she enjoyed it.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    Not all people realize there is a difference between 'liking and episode' and 'saying that the episode is good'. One can still have fun with a bad episode. Ironically... Next episode... I think it's a good episode gone bad. If they had more time to give weight to Discord's change by making it more gradual, feel less selfish. And... How about... Fuck you DHX... One sentence. And then, perhaps, actually show that Disocrd uses his magic for good instead of betraying those that believed in him and being selfish over Fluttershy's friendship and worried only about her. Again... Fuck you DHX... Fuck you to hell.
  10. What I think of the teaser... DO NOT DIVIDE BY ZERO! Also, I really like the idea of drawing stuff for magic. It's something that should've made into the cartoon sooner. Also, Starlight Glimmer is screwing things up. Good. I hope she suffers a lot for it. I hope Twilight saves her this time.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    I think it's amusing how many times characters in the show look like someone dragged them backstage and beat them with the Idiot Ball and make them swallow it (this got a bit dark in a hurry...). I think that it's bad that this seems to happen to some characters more than others. What I think is really bad is how many times this happens in this show in a way the plot simply wouldn't work without this. Anyway, I tend to be nicer to this episode because I think it succeeds with two of my 'tripod' of what makes a good episode. It does have it's own charm and humor (which I think is the strongest part of this episode). Though I cant disagree with anything said in the review.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    The funny thing is that I actually liked the song. Nice review, as usual.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    Rainbow Falls... I had forgotten about it... Newbie Dash was fine, if I remember correctly. I guess we'll get to it.
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    Princess Celestia Fan Club

    My reaction is closer to Twilight's.
  15. I am not going to spoil it for you... But you're gonna love it. It is the fifth member of the group. Be nice to it. By the way, did you watch Brotherhood and Kingslayer?
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    I would've liked that. You? Equestria is doomed. I think that this story arc sustained by the "wonderbolt episodes" made wonders for Dashie.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    @RK_Striker_JK_5I'm agreeing and also adding my point of view on the dynamic between Luna and Celestia and the origin of the problem of their presentation in the cartoon.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    I'm convinced. I had assumed that she just wanted to upstage Twilight and that all the rest was to be blamed on the amulet. But she knew what the amulet was. Yes, you're right. Trixie's intentions were malevolent beyond a simple hurt ego. I don't disagree, but I was under the impression that Rarity was being difficult because she didn't want to go. Unless memory fails, Sweetie said she had to convince Rarity. So I think that Rarity's behavior might've been intentional.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    @RK_Striker_JK_5 I'm going to abuse @Nuke87654's good will a bit more because I want to say something about the problem with Celestia, Nightmare Moon and Luna. Neither of them was supposed to be a "normal" character. I'm willing to bet that Lauren would've used Celestia even less than the later seasons are doing. Because there were supposed to be two alicorns, Nightmare Moon was supposed to be a season long villain (an actual one, unlike Starlight Glimmer). These characters were supposed to be legendary. Distant. Which is part of Celestia's appeal of trying to get others comfortable around her. The conflict between Celestia and Nightmare Moon was meant to stay in imagination, because there was no way the cartoon could keep up with the notion of two goddesses that control day and night fighting each other. One mad with sorrow and the other her sister. Even if they didn't have cosmic levels of sheer power in that original story, there was nothing anyone could do about it. If Celestia won, then lucky us and if Nightmare Moon had won, we'd be screwed and I doubt that in Lauren's idea Nightmare Moon could hold a kingdom in eternal night. Now we have four and one fifth alicorns all of them are doing... "Alicorn things". The difference is that all of them do it and Celestia just sits on her ass being useless. Cadance has her love voodoo (that she just doesn't use!) and Luna enters dreams. Twilight doesn't really does "alicorn things" but she was already doing her thing BEFORE she was an alicorn. It was different... It wasn't her "princess duty" like it is now. Luna, Cadance, Twilight (some would say Flurry Heart too, though I disagree) all have their niche in the cartoon. TL;DR: Luna is the Princess of the Night, but also of Dreams. Cadance is the Princess of Love and of kicking ass with needed. Twilight is the Princess of Friendship and of being the freaking main character of the cartoon. Celestia is the Princess of the Day and that is it. So, if Luna disappeared, she would be missed, since she has a place that doesn't fit others. The same for Twilight. Cadance... Kinda. If Celestia vanished, it would make ZERO difference for the cartoon. The obvious solution is to give Celestia a goddamn episode and some "power" that makes her unique. Unfortunately, I think it's too late and it's going to be too little because they already turned her into an useless idiot full of hot air that is only "the ruler" because Equestria is fictional. Unless DHX does something mindblowing with Celestia AND finds a way to acknowledge that all of her failings have a GOOD excuse... I think she'll be doomed to her current mediocrity. And it just frustrates me, because I don't believe that DHX can pull this off, even if they wanted.
  20. This is one of those games I can see myself playing over and again years from now.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    Shame. I think that Unicharm would've been much better, especially since alicorns lost the "divine rank". The less they're referenced in anything related to power the better. Not that it makes a big difference, but I'd prefer it. I wish MLP had any way of showing the audience these deleted scenes. For amusement. Trixie asking for the revenge section would've been too perfect and Mayor Mare at least asking Trixie to stop would've given the cartoon the episode something extra I think these kind of episodes need. Equestria makes very little sense sometimes. Trixie's "job" was different in S1. She was good for what was needed and then even better for this episode. This is why I like Larson. He's not perfect, but he can keep the "stakes" under control and that is part of what makes this episode work. Not to mention that I think he has great attention to detail. Nothing keeping them from putting Spike outside and them having him send the message... But... I actually think it was for the best. Celestia was out (because she always is, anyway...) and Luna already had her moments to shine ready. Not to mention that the alternative was handled very well with Zecora and her smarts. I like to imagine that Luna, able to enter dreams, knew what was going on and would've done something (supposing her guards are actually useful). I'm glad it's not in the episode, but Luna threatening to blast Trixie like Nightmare Moon can do to the timberwolf in another episode, or something, would've been hilarious. I just find it amusing the way that dangerous individuals are just left to their own devices in a world where actually tracking them, specifically, could be done easily. Fortunately, most of the time, it isn't an issue that distracts too much. And i was satisfied with Trixie's apologies. I'd just add to the mention of humor the tricks Twilight and Zecora used against Trixie with help from their friends. EDIT: Crap. I forgot to add the answer to the other post about Celestia. I'm fine disagreeing with you on stuff because you at least understand the other side's point of view and respect it. That is a lot more than I can say about most of my discussions with people on the subject. Also, i'll add a few more points since they were missing when I saw your post about the episode. Honestly, I didn't think that the stuff Trixie did was much worse than what Discord had done in his episode or the idea of love-eating monsters. Also, slavery isn't new to the cartoon thanks to King Sombra. Trixie only did it to characters we care more and in our face. That is the point, I guess. This Trixie is not the same as the one we knew. Fluttershy... Yeah... Now that you mention it, I supposed I agree. And Trixie's reformation didn't bother me. I think that punishment of any kind is only acceptable if it serves a purpose. She had understood what she had done wrong and felt sorry, and was free from the influence of the amulet. I think that it would've been bad if in following episodes she had betrayed what she learned and Twilight's trust. But this is only in retrospect, since I'm talking about later episodes. So I can understand why someone would think that her redemption wasn't done properly. Finally I love those two envoys from Saddle Arabia. I'd really like the show to explore Saddle Arabia in the future and maybe tell me more about them.
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    Princess Celestia Fan Club

    Wow. Stunning.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    We're seeing different things. Don't you see a conflict of interest here? I guess it comes down to personal views. But the problem is this magical word "assume". You have a much nicer view on the effectiveness of the storytelling in everything involving MLP than I do. But it's assumed. If you're telling a story, unless you want, the audience shouldn't have two opposite interpretations of events. Most human portrayal of Celestia, yes, but that is not necessarily a good thing and at the same time, that also means several things. Everything about Celestia, including how good, morally and as an effective leader, is assumed, and things like that in the comic don't help. The parents in the comic clearly think that the teacher is a problem. Celestia thinks otherwise because she has had personal experiences with that teacher. She also has a heart. That is fine if she doesn't need to give a damn that there is a conflict of interest (her personal feelings influencing her decision about the teacher) and the other can whine about it all they want. She's the badass princess of Equestria and they can suck it. But then there is the Gala. And Celestia needs to cater for the desires of the nobles, since she's forced to make the party the way they like it to the point of being forced to "liven things up". There is no concerted effort to solidify her into a character. Its not about how I want Celestia to be. Of course I have an ideal image in my head, but that is not the problem. I want her to be something, palpable, in canon, not just in the headcanon, that is the word for "assumed". And the problem isn't you or your opinion: it's DHX and IDW incapacity or unwillingness to do something with her. Because they don't care about this sort of inconsistency, everything seems inconsequential and unintentional. You didn't, but I bet you see all the time that it's used as example about how Celestia isn't an uptight prick and just wants to have fun with the "common folk". Not even that is 100% correct. She is a plot device because you can't see her motivations. All you see is what the writer wants her to do to get the plot moving. That never bothered me, but it's because I always saw Luna as a big child with mood swings anyway. In her FF issue with Pinkie Luna is the opposite of that. I talk about Celestia all the time, but she's not the only one with this sort of problems between comics and cartoons. These inconsistencies are part of the reason I stopped caring about the comics. I forgive this from the fandom, because I like to think that Luna has learned a bit how to open up. But you never saw Celestia doing that. You saw Luna. You never saw Celestia doing her job as ruler so you can't know if that is a typical day or how well she deals with those situations, even if it was a typical day. You're making a comparison between an apple and another fruit hidden inside a box and you can't even weight it to know if they feel similar. Not to mention that I'd prefer to see the rulers doing something actually useful. The problem, I suppose, is that it would be too "political". About the new review, again, I have nothing to add that @Anti-Villain hasn't said already.
  24. Metemponychosis

    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    Hunting robot predators that shoot lasers isn't fun. It's awesome. Back to the subject... That issue disappointed me. I remember that I felt frustrated that the Celestia's issue is more about a new character than about her and in the end I got the feeling that Celestia hadn't really done anything other than protect a friend and didn't give the other side enough consideration and I hadn't learned anything about Celestia. That teacher looked to me as though she really was causing more chaos than needed and Celestia was more worried with the past. The other I assume you mean is Luna's micro. With that one I just got pissed it was Luna pretty much doing what I wanted to see Celestia doing. I know that I'm very pedantic about seeing characters do things, but it's because I can't understand why it's so hard for both IDW and DHX to simply show Celestia DOING things when at the same time it's not a problem with Luna. It makes me think that everything they do with Celestia isn't intentional. It becomes headcanon, instead of character development because it's in our heads and not on the damn screen. It's like I said: we have no idea why Celestia is doing what she does with the Gala, because I don't know if she must obey the nobility or if she could just give then the metaphorical finger and do whatever she wants. The whole thing about the Gala isn't character development for Celestia, it's Celestia being a plot device. Which is all they do with her. And that is the problem. This is an excuse why she's never relevant to the story: she's "ruling the country". But Luna isn't bogged down with this crap, or if she is, she still manages to make appearances worthy of whole episodes while she's as much a ruler of the land as Celestia is. For Celestia, ruling the country is an excuse to keep her out of whatever is happening and for Luna, the exact same situation is the subject of an entire issue. The result is that I got Luna acting like an idiot (and still succeeding in solving the problem) while Celestia was, AGAIN, doing nothing. And, by the way, Equestria is never running smoothly. You can't say that Celestia is a good ruler based on what the cartoon shows us because Equestria is never under control, again because of the nature of the cartoon. Aren't we derailing your own topic? EDIT: I forgot to comment on the leak.
  25. Metemponychosis

    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    First, I'm sorry for taking this long to reply. Turns out Horizon Zero Dawn is a bigger time sink than I thought. This interaction between Celestia and the nobility interests me, but since I've left the comics behind some time ago, I may have missed this. Which issue are you talking about? The problem is that I have no reason to imagine that Celestia needs to give a damn what to they think, and I also don't have a reason to believe that she DOESN'T need to give a damn to what they think. I've come to terms that every discussion about Celestia with me is going to be anchored in the fact that her place in Equestria needs to be fleshed out. I guess I'll wait on your answer about the comics. Yes. That made sense before I knew that Celestia plans the thing herself and wherever or not she needed to conform to whatever the nobility wants her to. So it's still dependent on understanding how she relates to the nobility. Also, the problem isn't if she had malevolent intent or not. The problem is that there was no intent because we can't see her motivation, again, dependent on that. Leak? Are you talking about the