Metemponychosis

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    Starlight Glimmer is not OP

    @Aaargh Zombies I have absolutely no pretensions of being, or even trying to be perfect. But if you're going to accuse me of something, you better make sure you're not the one doing it to begin with and see that I may be ignoring things you said because you missed the point several times. Either way, I'm done repeating myself, this talk ceased to be fun and you're the one that brought up the cartoon's nationality while arguing about it's country of origin.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    Like I said in RK_Stryker_JK_5's thread, the whole situation with Zecora struck me more as fear of the unknown than as racism. Come to think of it, I think that it may have been an intentional slant given by the writer, to call out how ugly racism is, but I also think that saying that was the intention may be giving MLP a bit too much credit. But hey... I'm the one that says kids are smarter than most give then credit. Well, none of that changes how overused this kind of plot is, unfortunately. Do I like it? I sure do, I just wish it had been less formulaic. But coming from me, this is nitpicking. I didn't even think of that at the time. Wow. The forest seems to have become less dangerous (or the writers just don't care...) and even at the time the whole sense of danger from the forest seemed to come from the ponies' thoughts of it. The forest itself, wasn't really shown as very dangerous. Ponies freak out for no apparent reason? Funny. Inconsistency? More likely. The forest is consistently (I think... Could be wrong) mentioned as dangerous, but it is never really properly shown as such. This is a shame, when MLP seems to have an interest in keeping continuity some times. I like that the show has managed to maintain a level of consistency, with Applebloom's interest in potions and the use of the poison joke as a ingredient for a potion with controlled effect. For someone in my line of work, I think this is particularly clever and it was (will be) an interesting point of continuity.
  3. I need to laugh for a few seconds. Maybe it's my different background, and while I certainly can understand why someone would point at this episode and think of racism (Zebra... Racism...), it's almost too obvious not to see. But what I saw the first time was "fear of the unknown". Of course, Zecora's behavior didn't really help, but that's MLP being obnoxious. I think that it reduces a bit the cringe factor of a whole town of racists. The point remains that the problem with this episode is this dumb plot device of the whole universe being stupid except for one character that turns out was wrong in the end. I'm glad MLP doesn't do much of this. Anyway, I also love Zecora and her speaking mannerism and at the same time I dreaded putting her in a RPG I used to DM for. I want that Sailor Mars!
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    Starlight Glimmer is not OP

    You're the one that mentioned monologue, not me. I'm complaining about a character that is as deep as a cardboard cutout compared to others like her, inside the show itself. When you invoke the "target audience card" all I hear you saying that 7-12 aged girls in the US are stupid because you think that they can't see the difference. That is why I asked what was your point. Please don't go "really?" on me. And most importantly, fixing this problem wouldn't destroy anyone's enjoyment of the cartoon. I doubt that you have. Because I explained already why "the problem with Starlight Glimmer". Now, you're free to say that you disagree, but you seem to have missed the point. You missed the point of the analogy. I don't need to know what happened to AJ's parents to appreciate that she is a farmer, because that has no bearing in that character trait. It's not exceptional for orphaned kids to be farmers. It's different from Starlight Glimmer's magical ability, that, whoever is responsible, pulled off their behind to make her a credible threat, in a world where unicorns don't just do what both she and Twilight can do. The problem isn't only her motivation. Starlight Glimmer is analogous to Sky Stinger becoming Thor and destroying families because his didn't pay attention to him. It depends on what exactly you're talking about. Comparing Twilight and Starlight Glimmer, one is more robustly fleshed out. You can't say that Twilight learned all she knows from pixies in her bedroom, while in the case of Starlight Glimmer, you could make up anything you want, and it both can't be disproved and is utterly irrelevant. That is headcanon. "Twilight went to Celestia's school of magic" is canon. How did Starlight Glimmer learn magic? I don't know, and we're likely to have different headcanons, which are, by definition, a fan-created explanation to a canonical event that has no canonical explanation. It doesn't matter. Now I know they're friends and I have no reason to think that they weren't before. And this is why I say that giving Starlight Glimmer a decent past would fix my problem with her. Because of what I think, is a headcanon, and no one else other than needs to concern themselves over it. At least until the cartoon tells the audience what is what.
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    Starlight Glimmer is not OP

    What is your point when you say this? You didn't really read what I posted, did you? Because I really think that you're not reading what I'm posting, because if you did, you'd realize that lack of information ceases to be a problem when that information is given, even if it is retroactively. And also that I think different kinds of characters require different levels of development. I mean, if we were talking about Twilight's background way back in season one, not only would this conversation be very different, and also that I don't need to know what happened to Applejack's parents, for example, to appreciate that she is a farmer. But I'd really like to know how the hell did Starlight Glimmer get to be the way she is, and "she lost her friend as a kid" is not enough to explain how did she come to be as she was in her introductory episode, and is now. And also, I don't want you to present your interpretation of how that came to be. That is headcanon and I expect the cartoon to tell me about the character. And because it doesn't hurt to add it, I'll also mention that I don't hate the character, on the contrary, I want to know more about it.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    @Nuke87654 I don't really have much more to say that you haven't said yet. It's just that... Twilight wasn't being sarcastic. The intention was to make Twilight look naive, but that wasn't being cutely naive. That was cringe worthy. I don't think a six years old would say anything like this unless he LITERALLY spent his whole life isolated in a vault with only books to be released into the world in a sick experiment. Man... Not that any of the characters came out of this episode looking good, if you ask me, but Twilight took it to another level. I mean, in this kind of story, the idea is that you put the characters in a situation, blow it out of proportion and then you have one character that is the audience's anchor in the middle of the madness so that the audience can put themselves in the place of that character and relate to their reactions. This is formulaic and there can be variations of the idea, obviously. The problem is that Twilight seems... "Too off". It kinda reeks of flanderization. In the middle of something bad happening, Rarity is trying to make things pretty. Applejack is being short sighted. Twilight is looking for branches in the book. I don't like any of them, but it's like all of the took the short stick and Twilight managed to take an even short stick.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    Applesack and Charity I can forgive. Twilight was painful to watch in this episode, specially when re-watching it today. I don't even know how I would've made this episode. If the characters were to be "respected", the night would just have been normal and in the end it feels like one of those ideas that should just have been canned or left as a setup for another plot.
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    Tackling mature issues

    I was reading some posts in this thread and thinking about this. This is not a new conversation and I've seen it in other places as well. People seem to have a desire to see the cartoon grow a little more beyond its original goals. I think there are three things that shoot down the idea, but first, my personal opinion: I would praise the cartoon for doing something like this. Despite what people say, children that can understand right from wrong can also understand contextualized morality and fantastic settings. They certainly can understand that people are different and still should be respected, that you can co-exist despite differences, as long as the parents did their job of raising their kids properly. And this is the biggest problem. Well then... 1. I don't know if the writers the show usually employs can handle it. From my point of view, the plot for an episode always falls apart as soon as it gets more complex than "Applejack told a lie" or "magical map wants us to go somewhere and fix an arbitrary problem". Usually it's because they ignore characters that should be involved or just remove them from the plot so that whatever character they want to "work" can do their thing. They usually do it in the simplest way possible, such as "the princesses got kidnapped" or "some magical artifact with the exact necessary attributes pops into existence for that particular episode". You can't do that with complicated relationships. I doubt the cartoon, within 22 minutes, will manage to portray all the stuff you need for the audience to understand the conflict without it looking oversimplified or out-of-the-blue (like Do Princesses Dream of Magical Sheep) or over-dramatized (like Tanks for the Memories). We love this cartoon, but the truth is that it's not as excellent as people like to make it seem. 2. I don't know if there is anything the cartoon can do with this idea. Suppose the cartoon portrays a same-sex couple. Then what? How would they insert it into the usual format without making a repeat of Bridle Gossip? If they just put it there and don't do anything with it, it means nothing. 3. It's a no-win situation. Because if they don't do anything with it, impart a meaning and moral about the subject, people are going to be pissed off because it didn't treat the subject with the required respect. If they do, then people are going to be pissed off because they're exposing kids to "stuff they shouldn't be exposed to". Actually, I think that if they just showed a couple in any way it would be enough for people to rage against it. The cartoon is made in Canada, but it's meant for an US audience. The cartoon is way too pandering to it's audience to even try anything like that, specially when half the country thinks that Donald Trump has the right idea. TL;DR: would be nice but shouldn't be tried, won't happen.
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    Starlight Glimmer is not OP

    @Aaargh Zombies I meant exactly what I said. Because the level of detail that was put into her and how she was explored as a character denotes lack of effort for the reasons I pointed out. If that was the case, I wouldn't be complaining about it. Because... If it was left at that, it would still be bad, but it wouldn't bother. Since she's pretty much Mane Seventh, she deserves a better exploration of her past; or better: the audience deserves it. It's not like I'm condemning the cartoon for lacking this. All I'm saying is that it's lacking and as soon as I feel that this is no longer a problem, I won't complain about it anymore. There is also a difference between "mysterious" and "lacking". Luna's power for entering dreams is mysterious. We don't understand how it works, why does she have it, how did she get it. Knowing that would be fine, but not knowing these things don't get in the way of Luna's importance inside the story or the development of her character as she appears in episodes. Starlight Glimmer's past is lacking because there is nothing explaining what makes her different from Lyra and more similar to Twilight. At the same time, there is Twilight that was, indeed presented as a special case, but not only that, there is a reason she's good at magic. It's a problem with the narrative cohesion. Why is Twilight supposed to be special, if Starlight Glimmer's presence says that any Joe out of some unnamed hole can match her magic skills? And like I said, this is easy to fix. You seem to think that her little flashback is enough, but to me it isn't. That is enough for a character like Sky Stinger, that had ego problems and an unrealistic view of his skills. While these characters live in a completely different world from ours, we're supposed to connect to their motivations, fears and feelings. No adult wants to conquer to world because one friend left when they were kids, neither do we gain specialized knowledge from it. Twilight's background is "she's a gifted unicorn, studious, committed to her goal of learning magic, went to Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns, studied under the princess' personal tutelage", and others. Even if this is simply because she had more time devoted to her, being what can be considered a main character, this explains her magical abilities. If Twilight turns a frog into an orange, that fits. If Luna creates a nightmare monster that escapes her control, it fits. But if Lyra suddenly started turning ponies into little lyres because they didn't like her song, that is a stretch. No she's not. Sombra for example, has no backstory (in the cartoon), while she does. And that is more than fine for Sombra unless he comes back and starts making friends and upstaging better established characters. That is the problem. It would be better to leave SG's past empty than to shove in some half-assed excuse at a backstory. By the way, I wasn't aware that Twilight is in the military.
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    Starlight Glimmer is not OP

    As far as I'm concerned, the problem with her isn't that she's too powerful thsi is arbitrary and everyone will have a different threshold that shouldn't be crossed. The problem is that the cartoon did an awful job of justifying everything about her. There is a void of nothingness about her past between "I lost my friend" and "I'll conquer Equestria a cutie mark a time, I can mind-rape ponies, tore away their talents/destinies, and all the stuff that I can do". While in Twilight's case, there is the idea that she spent her childhood studying at a prestiged institution that teaches magic. Also, Twilight messed with things she shouldn't have because she was panicking, while Starlight Glimmer was in perfect control of her faculties and knew exactly what she was doing. This just made her unlikable to me. It doesn't help that all the characters that I love got the axe so that she could shine. Starlight Glimmer is a good idea that got ruined by a lazy execution. EDIT: In fact, I'd go as far as saying that Moondancer is a better Starlight Glimmer because she had a more level character arc that didn't get blown to epic proportions for petty reasons.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    All of this is news to me. Hmm... Interesting. This is one of my all time favorites and I agree with all of your points. Maybe not so much the second negative. Not that I think it's entirely excusable that Rarity would get distracted like that, but there is an argument to be made somewhere around here that Rarity kinda is like that. i guess it just doesn't bother me enough to deduct from my opinion of the episode. It's something that i like to say about MLP. Usually, there are three "pillars" in an episode: the characters, the humor and the charm. Everything else is just too good for me to complain too much about Rarity. But i definitively see where you're coming from.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    Only thing I can add to this is that I loved Trixie and her speaking mannerism. And it is a big disappointment when episodes get it wrong.
  13. Looking forward to your thoughts on the next episode. Shipping is an invention of the fandoms. The poor people making the cartoon couldn't have seen it coming. I think that the point was that Rarity is exceptionally beautiful, with a bit of humor about childish crushes. Though I'm way too guilt of Sparity to say that and not mention that fic writers have done good with the idea. In fact, the thought occurs to me that this episode does a very good job of presenting the traditional "troupes" or even cliched characters in a good light. But that is why people like the cartoon, after all: the amazing use of it's "main characters" most of the time.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    Quick! Someone find me a pic of Gilda dual-wielding a pair of Berettas! Also... I want to to go to Griffonstone and find their Balalaika. Must be terrifying.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    Agreed. When I was younger I used to feel jealous of my friends. Childishly, I felt left out whenever my friends were doing something without me. I think that this could've been a better story for Pinkie Pie than what got from the episode because of Gilda and Pinkie's behavior in the whole episode. People talk about Celestia, but Pinkie is another character I see the writers struggling with (well, they try, at least). What actually happens here is that the writers wanted the audience to think that Pinkie had set up the pranks at the party, but... What a twist! It was Rainbow. I think that what they wanted to do is to show that Pinkie tried in her own unique way to approach Gilda, but when the gryphon felt frustrated, thinking that Pinkie was picking on her, she showed her true colors and lashed out at Rainbow unintentionally. This is that kind of story where if the characters behaved like actual people, they could've fixed the whole situation with a nice talk. Yeah, I like this one too, but it's not one of the brightest. It is, however, very fun to watch.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    I loved Applebuck Season. I often say that there are three things that I consider important in an episode: characters, humor, and "charm". This one, I consider nails all three. Of course, it was "too early" to make a judgement about how the episode handled AJ, but at the time I didn't see anything about it that annoyed me and I loved learning about her. I also really enjoyed this episodes's brand of humor with AJ's shenanigans and it definitively had that "MLP charm" that I love. I remember hearing about this and I'm very glad they decided against it. In my opinion, it would've turned all the "charm" on it's head. At the time, I would've given this one a higher grade, but I hadn't bothered with the negatives you point, that are definitively present. However, the first negative doesn't really bothers me. Stubborn pride is part of AJ, after all. It blinds.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    I can't see anything I disagree with here. People are talking about the gala, but I'll leave my thoughts about that when we come to it. (and why I think that some episodes in this cartoon are so bad that they manage to hit past episodes...). The same about Canterlot nobility.
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    S6 - episode 26 - Discussion (US airing October 22)

    Does that mean that I can rage quit the cartoon because it likely means that Celestia will end up in a changeling cocoon again?
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    Sum up an episode in 8 words.

    Season Six finale wants me to hate it.
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    S6 - episode 26 - Discussion (US airing October 22)

    Part of me is happy that people liked this episode. DHX must be doing something right and I'm just stupid. I'm not even going to complain about Celestia because I'm just convinced that she isn't very powerful, can't fight and is generally hated by DHX. But I think this episode would've been a lot better if I had more from the changelings in a way that made Thorax look less like an outlier and chrysalis more like a hated tyrant. It would've made the whole 180 the changelings pulled a lot easier to swallow. Also, I don't understand how come the changelings don't rule the whole planet already. In the end, I'm just happy that there's only one finale per season.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    I think you're implying that Luna's problem was that Celestia was being loved, but what the narrator says is that the problem was that the ponies shunned her night. As far as the cartoon mentions, Luna didn't care that Celestia's day was loved, only that her night wasn't. I think that something important to mention about Fluttershy is that "her thing" is understanding animals. Not only what they're saying, but what is bothering them. The first part of the episode does present the characters, but the most important part is the second, where their characteristics come together and ties the group together with Twilight's insight while facing Nightmare Moon. It's like the first part says "look, these are important" and the second part proves that they are. Nightmare Moon's stupidity in the second part was painful to watch but it should be excusable after mentioning that Lauren's original plan was to stretch the whole thing through the season (like you say would fix the problems). The real problem is that it was dumbed down because of the E/I rating it had to follow at the time and then rushed so that it could fit in a single episode. Nightmare Moon needed actual servants, goons to throw at the girls instead of being ineffective by herself. Or an excuse why she couldn't just off the girls: maybe she needed the Elements for something. Personally, if the cartoon didn't have that introduction, this whole thing would've made Nightmare Moon look like a buffoon and I certainly wouldn't get so interested in the series. I think that the important part about that intro is that the cartoon was taking itself seriously, when the second part really wasn't. Nightmare Moon seemed threatening (because of Eternal Night, and at the time, I wouldn't have a doubt that no one could make her do anything she didn't want). The problem, is that this emphasizes the problems with the second part and makes mentioning stuff like original plans and age rating important.
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    Nuke's FIM Episode review thread

    Cough. <politely sits and waits>
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    What kind of episodes do you want to see in Season 7?

    Basically, more of the same. But going into specifics about what I'd like to see... - Celestia does something. Or at least some sort of insight into her life and duties. Without Luna because I want to see Celestia doing something. Not Luna and Celestia. Let her shine! Show how awesome she is. TL;DR CELESTIA EPISODE, FFS! - Actual lore about Celestia, Luna and Discord, their past and how - For the love of god, stop with these season finales. Or at least do them right. Actualy develop characters and ideas throughout the season, instead of dropping them every now and them. - The Royal Guard needs some love too. - A flashback to Twilight's time as Celestia's student.
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    S6 - Episode 23 - Discussion

    I really like this episode and I think it does what it proposes to do, but Big Mac's part in it could've received a bit more love. I'm starting to think that this cartoon's biggest enemy are time constraints. Though it isn't a problem in the next episode or on the finale... Oh well... Anyway, it was very amusing to see AJ getting more and more tangled in her lie and Big Mac getting annoyed at her.