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    Starlight Glimmer: hate or great?

    You do realize you're mistake, don't you? You should have KILLED IT WITH FIRE. Anything less is just asking for it to come back for a PG-13 Made-for-TV sequel.
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    Starlight Glimmer: hate or great?

    I've heard people say this, but I'm not so certain that it's true. Out of 26 episodes in season 6 Starlight mostly only had cameos where she would appear for a few scenes and would have a handful of lines that were often just for exposition, and then she would more or less be a background character for the rest of the episode. Even in the episodes that focused on her she often shared the spotlight with another lesser known character and the scenes were frequently used simply to introduce the audience to them. In episodes 118 and 119 (Season 6 premier) she was pretty much just a way to bring Sunburst into the story, and she didn't do anything that couldn't otherwise have been done by a character like Cadence or Rarity. Most of the time she's either talking to Sunburst of is acting as an assistant to Twilight. She either wasn't in episodes 119 - 122 or only had cameos. In episode 123 she shared the spotlight with Trixie, and the entire episodes is little more than a platform to bring Trixie into the mane storyline. She's largely missing in episode 124, and in Episode 125 it isn't even Starlight it's Snowfall Frost being played by Starlight. Though she does get a song which is awesome. She's not really a player in episodes 126 to 132, and in episodes 133 she a handful of lines, and isn't a part of the mane storyline at all. She's missing again from episodes 134 to 137, and it's not until episode 138 that she actually has an episode where she is the mane character and isn't sharing the stage with anypony else. That's a full 21 episodes into a 26 episode season before she has her own character episode. The CMC had a lot more appearances than this in the first season. She isn't in episodes 139 to 141 either. So, she's spent most of the entire season either as a secondary character or being totally out of the episode. It's not until episode 142 and 143 that she actually does do anything that might otherwise be considered "a Twilight thing". These episodes were a big change for MLP, as none of the mane 6 had a big part in the story, it was a pretty unique episode. Even more so than Hearthswarming Eve and A Hearth's Warming Tale. Where the Mane 6 played other characters. My personal view is that some people were simply upset that Hasbro decided to introduce a new character into the established set of characters. They wanted more of the same, or more season 1 or 2 content. You had some people getting upset because they desperately wanted either a Celestia or a Luna episode and didn't get one (During season 6, 90% of Celestia\Luna content was being handled by the comics, so it wasn't going to happen due to the Hasbro enforcing a strict policy of having the show\comics handle different aspects of the franchise). Some people simply didn't like Trixie, and were upset that Starlight and Trixie were ow a thing, and some people were holding out for more content for their personal favorite characters (Such as Spike) and thought that having an additional character would mean fewer episodes for their character. It's why you get so many people being upset about how powerful Starlight is, without them actually realizing that 90% of the time Starlight's magic is the problem, and Friendship is the solution. Meaning that far from being overpowered, Starlight was massively underpowered, because she didn't understand friendship.
  3. To be fair, Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy seem to live in homes that they shouldn't be able to afford, and being Twilight's student essentially means giving up her entire life and her independence. Sure she live in a castle, but she has one room to call her own and absolutely no privacy or control over her life for the duration of the season. Imagine this, you're an independent adult essentially running not only your own affairs but also controlling an entire town and its inhabitants. You have have your own cottage, your own hench-ponies, and anybody that you can't control through fear you control through magic. Then you loose all power and control, not only over your subjects but also your own life, and you are at the beck-and-call of a Princess you could in all probability have you turned into stone and used as a lawn ornament in the royal gardens. So far Starlight has showed up in three mediums, the show, the IDW comic, and the G M Berrow Books. In all three mediums she find Twilight to be overbearing. She longs for privacy and time to follow her own interest, and she frequently tries to go behind Twilight's back and either ditch Twilight's tutelage or to take shortcuts to get exercises out of the way. It would be like you moving into your guidance councilor's spare room. Only she's also your parole officer, and your faculty advisor, and she's best friends with the local sheriff whose got their eye on you for that pot that you sold around the dorms.
  4. I'm pretty certain that's not how quantum physics actually does things, she merely rearranged the existing universe by altering key variables in it's continuity. It's a bit like going back in time and changing the production run at a factory from coke to Pepsi. The can's the same, and most of the ingredients are the same, but it's a different drink.
  5. Yes, because that small town in the middle of the desert sure looks like a leafy suburb filled with pools and convertibles.
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    King Sombra is Not Dead (Fan Theory)

    Your first stop should be @AskMaridee by Georgia Ball. She's very chatty about her editors and editing. (Check here for many more: https://forums.equestriadaily.com/index.php?/topic/1533-comic-artists-twitter-acounts-and-home-pages/) This is quite a good example of a thread (Sorry, I can't post what I want, so click through and read the rest of the conversation directly on Twitter. She's discussing how often Hasbro sends writers\artists memos asking for changes. Click around there's lot more that's not covered on this snippet. She says that Hasbro are very protective of MLP and regulate what they can\can't put into the comics. That's actually not true, which is where some of the biggest misconceptions come it. DHX doesn't have full creative control over MLP. Hasbro has maintained that, and it's managed by the storytelling department. The head of storytelling for MLP is Megan McCarthy (The same Megan McCarthy who was on the original creative team for the show). The exact same is true for IDW. IDW can't publish an MLP comic without approval from Hasbro, and Hasbro have frequently intervened to stop them publishing certain things, or to make them publish certain things. For example, they were instructed to include Flash Sentry in several comics, but were also instructed to remove all references to Zebra from the Boffy Ball comic). In short, if DHX wants to retcon something from the comic then they must get approval from the exact same people who approved the comic version in the first place. The exact same people who are in charge of making sure that the comic and the show do not diverge story-wise. Also, the show is usually at least one season head of the comics on the MLP timeline (The cutie Mark Crusaders have only just gotten their cutie marks in the comics), so the comics can tell what is happening in the show and avoid conflicts without having to retcon anything. The show can retcon itself as well. Several people have tried to figure out the timeline, but the general conclusion is that DHX didn't figure out a timeline before they started writing. This is particularly noticeable during the first 3 seasons, but not so much after season 3 when things are more coherent. Based on a pure linear timeline Tanks for the Memory is set less than one year after May the Best Pet Win, and Princess Twilight Sparkle is set exactly 1 year after the show's Pilot episode. Yet there have been multiple summer and Fall episodes between them, either all of the summer episodes from 3 1\2 seasons happened back to back regardless of them being in different seasons, and the same with all of the Fall episodes. Or that multiple years have gone by. Based on the actual seasons an absolute minimum of 2 years has gone by. If you look at Sweet Apple Acres and their planting\harvesting cycle then the first 4 seasons take 3 1\2 to 4 years. For example, Episode 4 is the start of the apple harvest, yet episode 41 is cider season. Meaning that either these two episodes either refer to the same apple harvest and are almost back to back despite being in separate seasons, or that they are a year (or 2) apart (different apple harvests). Episode 58 is set in Fall, and Episode 60 is spring\summer. Meaning that either yet another year has gone by since season 2, or that some episodes from season 3 are set during the timeline of season 2. Then Twilight becomes a Princess and we get a line dividing seasons 1-3 and 3+.
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    King Sombra is Not Dead (Fan Theory)

    To be fair, 99.99% of everything that's ever happened in any of the comics, episodes or books is never mentioned again. EVER. Most American cartoons are specifically written in an episodic style. This means that you can watch pretty much the entire of seasons 1-3 in any order that you like and the show will still make perfect sense. It doesn't matter that Sleepless in Ponyville was in season 3 and Boast Busters was in season 1, you can still watch them back to back and there is nothing in the actual storyline that determines which order you should see them in. There is very little continuity between episodes, so little that it's actually noteworthy when we have something. Didn't you notice that after season 1 (when there were three gala related episodes) up until season 3 (When Twilight becomes a princess) most of the episodes and their order is totally interchangeable. The same is true for the books. We know that Pinkie Pie and the Rocking Ponypalloza happened before Mane Attraction, and that Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell happened after the season 3 finale, but before the first EQG movie, but most of the other material is open to interpretation. The main factor is whether or not Twilight has wings in it. It's actually uncertain whether season 1 and 2 are canonically in chronological order. Winter Wrapup was episode 11, but Fall Weather Friends was episode 13. This means that A) Winter happens before Fall in Equestria, B) That episode 11 was set a whole year before episode 13 (Winter from one year, fall from the next) or that the episodes are not in chronological order. Some parts of season 2 seem to be set in the middle of season 1. The fact that something isn't mentioned again is actually normal for MLP. It's not until the later seasons where new characters like Maude are introduced, or where Rarity has several stores, that we have any real continuity at all.
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    King Sombra is Not Dead (Fan Theory)

    I don't want to be rude, and please don't take this the wrong way, but I'm not certain that everybody here is familiar with how things usually are in the creative industry where one franchise is split over multiple media. Saying that they are not "beholden to the comic" is like saying that that MLP isn't beholden to Micheal Jackson's kitchen. It doesn't really have any meaning. The creative team at DHX doesn't have full creative freedom, and neither does the creative team at IDW. Neither team is "beholden" to the other because they are both separate teams who happen to currently have an agreement with Hasbro to use their intellectual property. Essentially both teams are equal. The DHX cannot tell IDW to do\no do something, and IDW cannot tell DHX to do\not do something. Members of both teams are free to watch\read the content produced by the other team. We know from Twitter and various blogs that a lot of the writers\artists on one will read\watch the other, and they are are fans of each other. Neither are "beholden" to the other as they are both franchise holders. BOTH are beholden to the MLP storytelling team which is department\sub-department at Hasbro. It's like having two restaurant chains. One is a chicken restaurant, and one is a chili restaurant. But both are owned by the same parent company. IDW will get a memo telling them that they cannot do a story about Fluttershy having a brother because DHX are going to cover that later on. IDW will get a memo telling them that they can't cover Sombra's backstory because the comic is covering it. DHX doesn't send a memo to IDW, and IDW doesn't send a memo to DHX. Both get their memos from Hasbro. We know that Hasbro wants to keep the two mediums in line, and is actively preventing them from contradicting the other. We also know that Hasbro is doing the same with the books. They are deliberately and purposefully keeping all three mediums in sync so that there is a single universal canon for all English language MLP content. There has been a little confusion where some people have said that the show is the overriding source, but that's just retconning. The show has retconned itself a couple of times. Does that mean that past episodes aren't canon? No, it's just retconning.
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    King Sombra is Not Dead (Fan Theory)

    All that he's saying is that the show can retcon the comics. This is actually pretty normal and doesn't really mean anything. As for him not being aware of people on the show keeping track of the comics we already know A) That Megan Megan McCarthy keeps track of the comics, because she's part oft the story team, B) That quite a few of the shows staff are big fans of the comics because they discuss it on Twitter and on their blogs. We also know from the twitter accounts of people who did a couple of issues as story or art crew were in constant contact with Hasbro. They joke about how many memos they get with changes, and about how different it is from other franchises like Transformers where there is a lot more creative freedom. I think that you're misinterpretation (or at least the misinterpretation of many other people) is to think that "separate" means "different". The Twilight from the show and the Twilight from the comics are the same Twilight. It's only the stories that are separate. If there is a story in the comics about Twilight's first day in school we know that this means that Hasbro has confirmed to the comic team that this won't be in a future episode. If the show ever does something that contradicts the comics, then it's just a retcon. Retcons are common, too.
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    King Sombra is Not Dead (Fan Theory)

    Seriously, if you read the Twitter account of people who did a couple of comics for MLP at IDW they complain\joke about all of the memos that they had from Hasbro. Hasbro are really protective of the franchise and they have been purposefully intervening to make sure that the show and the comics don't overlap because they don't want them to contradict each other. If the comic does a story about Rainbow Dash's first day at school you know that the show won't have an episode about it later on, and so on.
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    Starlight Glimmer: hate or great?

    While there is a certain amount of opinion involved, in general you analyses their text and look for certain factors. Such as the use of strawman arguments and redirection. You also look for instances where they profess a particular view in a manner that's unusually personal, but their argument drifts all over the place and does not support their initial view. Another way is that they repeatedly use highly evocative language, like describing starlight as being "an upstart" or "an interloper" or complaining about her backstory "being forced" when the topic is supposed to be something unrelated. Like her interaction with other characters. I've come across this almost as often as I've come across (A). Some people are upset because Hasbro\DHX is focusing too heavily on Starlight Glimmer. They feel upset that they have become emotionally invested in the Mane 6, and then a new character comes along and each episode that focuses on her is an episode that doesn't focus on the other characters. Particularly their personal favorite character. They feel that it's unfair to give the neewbie so much attention at the expense of established cast members. It's best not to, that creates an environment in which a debate can become an argument. People start typing in anger and that isn't good. The way that I understood the episode was that the writer were trying to contrast Twilight from season 1 to Starlight from season 6. They were both supposed to be finding out about friendship, but they approached things from different angles. Twilight was afraid of making a fool of herself by being bad making friends, but Starlight was afraid of making a fool of herself by being bad at the actual tasks. The writers deliberately had her brainwash the Mane 6 to show how different she was from Twilight, and that even though she wasn't a villain she was still doing many of the things that a villain would do (AKA brainwashing). She does similar things in other episodes, like when she tries to use magic to change Big Macintosh to be more talkative. They showed that even though she was "reformed" she didn't just suddenly become a model pony. There's nothing careless about this episode. Though the pacing was a little off it was well thought out and it got it's core ideas across very well. I think that maybe you've approached the episode with a different mindset from the one that the writers had expected and so didn't get the most out of this episode. Starlight not being empathetic is a part of her basic character. She's become used to forcing her will on other ponies. The writers did this deliberately, she slowely changes as the season goes on, until the finale when she finally understands what Twilight has been trying to tell her since the season premier. That's a little bit of a strong way to put things. my main issue is with people who have one opinion, but instead of trying to justify it they use strawman arguments and try to justify those instead because they are not being honest "with themselves" about why they don't like Starlight. As I said before, I don't have a problem with people who come right out and say that they don't like the changes that were made to Starlight in season 6 because they already formed a headcanon about her based on her appearances in season 5. What I do have a problem is with people who (for example) who are upset because the introduction of a new character this late in the show means that they've had to cut back on story elements about the existing character, but instead of coming out and saying this openly they try to make out that Starlight is a bad character using strawman arguments. If somebody repeatedly describes Starlight as being an upstart and an interloper, and they say that Hasbro is being unfair to the other characters, then it's likely that they are really concerned with her being too powerful\badly written\etc, and are really upset that season concentrated on her a lot.
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    Starlight Glimmer: hate or great?

    If I didn't like people disagreeing with me I'd have gone around the block to avoid this thread. It's a disagreement magnet. It's when A) Somebody isn't honest about why they don't like something and instead tries to build a stawmare argument to justify their position, or B) When they take something that's common in the franchise and try to make out that it's a unique situation. There's nothing wrong with somebody coming right out and saying that their dislike for Starlight Glimmer is largely because they think that Hasbro is trying to recapture the success that they had with Twilight's character in season 1\2, and they feel that Starlight is the wrong character to do this with as it requires a drastic readjustment of her established persona from the first 4 episodes in which she appeared. On the other hand, if somebody tries to come up with a character assassination where they see the worst in everything for the sake of convenience, then that's something else entirely. If you'd like to pick a specific area where you disagree with me, and were then to explain why you disagreed using examples for the show to back up your disagreement, then I will happily defend my position using a traditional debate format. I only ask that you pick something specific and then avoid thread drift otherwise the entire thing could run away from us.
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    Starlight Glimmer: hate or great?

    Well said. Early on in the fandom, before it went mainstream, a lot of fans felt that they could relate to season 1\2 Twilight because she was intelligent yet uncertain of how she fitted in. She had skills and talents but was sometime nervous about using them, and she was worried about what others thought of her. A perfect fit for fans who were reticent about openly saying that they liked the show because of fear of ridicule. Then Twilight became more confident, more self assured, as the show went on. People didn't start hating her because she was a Princess, they felt less able to relate to her now that she (Regardless of her status as a Princess) was more certain of her place in life.
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    Starlight Glimmer: hate or great?

    When we get right down to it Starlight's not super powerful. She's simply well prepared. She spends "years" making that Cutie Mark spell, and it is effective "exactly one time". Twilight blocks effortlessly it the second time that she tries to use it. The time traveling spell is a combination of two spells written by other ponies. She doesn't write either from scratch, and she spends a long time researching it. Both times she essentially succeeds because she planned ahead, but when she got past that initial stage she couldn't keep up the momentum. It's the same when she's "battling" Twilight. She got there first. She knew what Twilight was going to do and she had time to prepare. If this were a video game, Twilight would essentially be re-spawning right in Starlight's cross hairs every time. Besides, Twilight isn't a good fighter. Her typical response is to Horn Blast everything. She doesn't doge or teleport, or anything. She just flies right in and Horn Blasts. It takes Twilight and Cadance together to force the Taizelworm back into it's burrow, and she was bested by gas spitting plants in previous episodes. I think that you're giving Twilight too much credit. Most of her "ability" lies in knowledge, not doing complicated spells and certainly not fighting. The only other time we really see Starlight doing much magic is Every Little Thing ... in which case she performs some complicated spells that other ponies wrote. All related to mind control. Presumably she simply practiced them a lot as she seems to have no compunction against doing that kind of thing and has done it before. I think that Starlight simply spent a lot of time studying. She's older than Twilight, couldn't she just be a well studied unicorn going up against another well studied unicorn who'se a little less studied?
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    Starlight Glimmer: hate or great?

    I'm not even sure that people are aware that they are doing it. I've seen countless people building these extremely convoluted strawmare arguments about why they think that Starlight Glimmers is "The worst thing every to happen to MLP", but at the end of the day when you challenge them on things it all comes down to them being upset that Hasbro has taken Starlight Glimmer in a different direction from their headcanon, or that they don't like that she's been given so much screen time this season. A few weeks ago I challenged somebody over their strawmare arguments by showing them that - in relation to each part of their argument - pretty much every single hero and villain in MLP had been treated in the exact same way, and that most everything that they'd mentioned was due to the 23 minute episode limit, and they threw this massive hissy over it. It's all part of the whole "drama" thing. People become overly invested in their headcanon, and when the show takes a character a different way from the way that their headcanon was going they react as if Hasbro has done this to spite them. When somebody makes an extremely complicated argument as to why a character is bad, and you then show them that the exact same argument could be used against characters as diverse as Fluttershy and Tirek, because Hasbro tends to treat all characters in that way, they don't like it.