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  1. The argument that the word "Nigger" is harmless because it's Latin and is the name of Nigeria overlooks a long history of social implications, usage, and complexities as much as it overlooks its etymological roots. For starters, the name of Nigeria is derived from the river Niger, which isn't sourced from the Latin languages but from Berber as "River of Rivers". Nigerians don't make a fuss about it, because they're the country of the River of Rivers. Or from the Berber relatives of the Tuareg: Egerew n-Igerewen. This was passed down to us by Leo Africanus.


    While you might think that phonetically the name of Nigeria is derived from the Latin word for black, their two different instance of two words that mean different things from different languages, like "gift" in English and "gift" in German. You want a gift in English, gift in German kills you. Gift is poison auf deutsch.


    The pejorative word "Nigger" is rooted from the Spanish and Portugese words for black people, which does have a Latin root meaning black. But is not the same as the meaning of Niger.


    Now, etymology aside the fact of the matter is excusing the weight of the word as being little because of some originally harmless meaning (black) does nothing but overlook the social context of its use and history. By the 18th century the modern derivatives for Latin-black in the context of people began to be used to look down on people of darker skin, evolving with language trends and the evolution of English to become what it is today. But because of its broader context to describe a people who were all largely enslaved through much of anglo history. Even with slavery being abandoned by the British thirty-years before America, the mindset of the inferior black - the nigger - was an important meme to deploy in the imperial experiments in Africa and the civilization of Africa through colonization, turning the natives of the land into second class, unworthy citizens. Likewise the usage of the word to further differentiate the blacks who were enslaved and the free whites of America became a means by which the slavery was maintained or even bred out of the institution of slavery in a cycle of use. Attaching not just a recognition of difference in skin tone, by association and use the definition of and use of "nigger" took on to mean less developed people, as in the British Empire but also illustrated in America by Jefferson's writings on slavery proclaiming the African blacks as being naturally inferior; interestingly as contrasted against Washington's later development and admission that the African Blacks were inferior because of slavery, and not as Jefferson said that they're enslaved because of their perceived natural inferiority.


    The emancipation of slaves really doesn't do much to overlook this or stop or change its use. The later Civil Rights movement(s) and the missions of such groups as the NAACP and the MLK's Southern Baptist Church helped to mark a trend to neutralize the effect of the N-word by replacing it all together with neutral terms that don't carry that historical weight. Because even over a century after the end of slavery and the weight, implications, and hate of the word "Nigger" or the aristocratically dated "Negro" still remains, and sweepingly ignoring all that history behind the word, by saying it doesn't matter, does little in actually healing it. As it stands, when spoken by a white person to describe a thing or a person it compares it by connotation to a black person, and implies both are the same thing, which has been the entire contemporary mission of the Civil Rights movement to surmount and defeat.


    tl;dr - Words just don't mean just words, and using them without awareness of their connotations is an admission of ignorance or if with intent as being racist.


    Gwailo may mean a white ghost or white devil literally. But it's direct and figuratively used to pejoratively describe white people.

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  2. On 4/18/2018 at 6:50 PM, Cinder Vel said:

    Kinda hoped there would be some response to this. But then perhaps it is simple too late for this forum anyway. 


    Every passing moment is a moment of confirmation this forum is an excuse for the admins to call themselves EQD staff without work.



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  3. On 4/18/2018 at 2:36 PM, Nile Komnenos said:


    -God may not speak to us directly, but we have the teachings He gave to Jesus. It's only up for interpretation in heretical churches, us in the Orthodox sphere have kept the same doctrine since the founding of the church two millennia ago.

    Up until the church again splits over crazy shit just like the west because someone made the sign of the cross wrong so you start breaking heads and it's an entire intersectional war. Or someone plays with the calendar and you split three ways. Or someone in the church decides to wave away the entire argument of sex by carrying out castration and mascetomy of the congregation. Or decides someone needs to be whipped.


    Or, while not claiming it's no-homo you just straight up marry same-sex individuals anyways because if you tell Jesus it's no homo it's no homo. This has been a facet of the Eastern Church for a thousand years too.


    There is no original teaching of the church if even on many levels - modern included - you're not able to agree on Jesus's divinity or the canonical status of the Old Testiment.


    But also too I need to know: Do you support that church the supports the Fascist government of Ukraine? Or the church that supports the Fascist government of Russia? A slav needs to know.


    What is your position on the Gregory Palamas vs Barlaam battle?

  4. 1 hour ago, Nile Komnenos said:

    I speak from my Eastern Orthodox perspective, the one that rejects many things American Protestantism (and even Catholicism) tries to push. Sorry if my Christianity isn't what your liberal interpretation says it should be. What you see as "Pharisee corruption" I see as honing in a sense of morality that should be retained. I don't condemn sinners and those who do evil things, but I will surely tell them they need to stop doing it.

    St. Paul did what I believe was necessary, when you reject what he did for the church you get things like Anglicanism, which allows homosexuals to become bishops. Now I'm sure most Catholic priests are gay simply based on how many of them are caught doing so, but in Orthodoxy we don't tolerate it.


    Then which Orthodox church are you accepting? The side of the church that accepts Russian policy or not? The Eastern tradition is no less free of doctrinal dispute as the western tradition and as such even within itself - as without itself an in the broad Christian world - can not possibly claim the single cloth of being the true belief. Let alone even, once your magical one-church state is formed, then what happens when a doctrinal split happens? Are the new ones less Christian than you?

  5. If the topic of the thread is to expose and confront racists and bigots then the above conversation is very much on track. The notion of the racist or the bigot as the subject of the thread is revealed, by Niles, as being presently that.


    Thematically this is antagonist to the show, which lauds themes of being an open and diverse society and the integration of and Belonging in society of individuals outside of the percieved norm. Since community isn't built from the homogeony of belief or exterior appearance but by the relations of the individual towards one another.


    The assertion of Niles in the end concludes there isn't any relation between two people if they are opposing. The conclusion is in best of circumstances as Niles is writing it is that opposing positions or """race""" to himself is intolerable.


    So Niles, tell me again how you're tolerant?

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  6. 2 minutes ago, Nile Komnenos said:

    If a site doesn't want to host people who hold racially charged views then I mean I can't exactly stop it, but I think freedom of speech trumps your feelings.


    Appealing to a broad freedom is a weak-ass argument and you're going to need to innumerate.


    Because even in real world application of the philosophy where we have exceptions when it comes to hate speech, credible threats, NDAs, "fighting words", and so on, then it's not entirely unreasonable to raise an exception for anything that would make a group uncomfortable or uninvited in the community or the fandom. The double punch too comes up that for a show like MLP, to frankly accept calls of death or inferiority of a group of people or type of person within the fandom is antithetical to the shows thematic principle and shows the fandom as being hypocrites.


    But then again, we're all a bunch of Don Quixotes.

  7. 7 hours ago, Nile Komnenos said:



    >He doesn't know the countermanding principles of Negative Liberty as an assurance to an individual's free pursuit of happiness and safety vs positive liberty.


    2 hours ago, Nile Komnenos said:

    And people who promote clop and pornography have been responsible for a lot of social problems and are harmful to thousands to millions of people.

    I doubt that, eroticism has been a fairly neutral affect of human culture since time the moment man learned to do art and write. Some of the earliest forms of writing were considerably erotic. There are plenty of erotic poems from out of Ancient Egypt and Sumer. Unless your identifying "clop" as being an issue on par with the modern pornography industry then it's not so much that the nature of erotic works is bad, but that systematized commercialization of pornography contributes to such a mass market saturation of sausages in buns feeds into a setting of incredibly accessible pornography. This of course means also that it's such a aspect that in places like Derpibooru it can be turned off at user's will. Porn in this aspect is much more a content issue vs a issue of the people.


    The matter of racists and bigots in the community and how they are treated or interact with it is much on the level of the nature of positive vs negative freedom. Or: the freedom from the thing, and the freedom to do the thing. In absolute forms neither can exist and have to be negotiated. While I can't certainly punch them out of it, the least that can be done is less saying, "they have the right to do the thing" while ignoring the people they make uncomfortable or the over-all negative image they give in the fandom, and more saying, "perhaps they shouldn't get the platform in the fandom's public spaces".

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  8. Aaron's broader list of complaints on things to remove, merge, or move to some other section of the forum landing:


    Why is it the first thing anyone sees on the site is Introductions and Town Hall? Introductions I can get but having Town Hall defeats whatever minimal purpose this site may have. A website - even a forum - operates like a newspaper so Town Hall with all is moderator applications, site bitching, and what not needs to be relegated to the bottom of the barrel where anyone who will spend more than five minutes here will be going down to anyways. Sections and sub-forums dedicated to the primary focus of the forum in general - My Little Pony - needs to be moved closer to the top so that's it's clearly visible and up front. To that effect too, Introductions should have a smaller profile so it's not as dominating; no one should be here to introduce themselves.


    Reasoning being the average attention span for most new users on average ends at three seconds and if the only establishment is that MASSIVE AS FUCK LOGO then of course we're dead: everyone might as well just go to EQD itself to talk pony and not use the """official""" EQD forums.


    Events & Groups and the Rainbowfalls Exchange - Nukes these entirely. Clearly no one uses them but a forum isn't typically a workable platform for these things. And after all we have a Status Bar and if one or the other's only purpose is to effectively advertise, then someone can use that. There's been no new posts in six months outside of an ad bot. This isn't mentioning that any organization for a meet up is going to be at the local level and the forum now just has too small a presence at even a """national""" level to be more appropriate a place to organize these outside of localized MLP Facebook groups.


    Move everything in the My Little Pony section up to take control of the main landing screen on this site. This should be front and center or clearly exposed on initial loading of the site. Not the 450 pixel tall logo and header bar, not so much introductions. Turn introductions into a small side thing without any description because the name is already a description. This should give room to put the pony front and center.


    Nix the 2017 MLP Movie sub-section in general horse discussion and at the least turn it into general horse movie discussion. Move EQG into that since they're mostly movies given weight of content as plot content versus the shorts. Maybe nuke the classic MLP board and relegate it to the general nature of the general MLP discussion board.


    Relegate Community Projects into the realm of whatever topical fan-content genre in any of the other forums below.


    Everything in Friendship is Gaming can probably by merged into one general-purpose forum. Kick all that into the Changeling Hive. Relegate Paper Pony in with Roleplaying because that's effectively what that is. Pen and Paper roleplaying. No need to complicate with additional sub-forums and sub-sub forums. Just lump it all together.


    Outright murder Fanclub Fortress. If General Posting is going to be the most prominent form of posting for any other board then for the sake of a consistently rising post ticker you don't need to contain that sort of shit.


    Next: start asking what point this board is because I'm beginning to suspect it's an excuse for people to claim some sort of horse authority by being associated with Equestria Daily on tenuous links.

  9. Nuke the TF2 section because we're clearly not a TF2 group anymore. Hell, we don't even got servers anymore. Maybe if we had servers and people played it might justify it but clearly those people are gone and now the site is a revolving door of intro threads and status updates.


    Given time, I might find more sections that could be better off pruned/merged to clean things up. But we gotta start somewhere. Start playing TF2 againnor remove it; use gaming instead.

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