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With any film based on a comic book, a novel, or a live-action or animated tv show, there's going to be nitpicks from fans about certain characters not being used correctly, to the main cast being ooc, etc...

With the MLP Movie, it's no different, and here I'm going to discuss 4 of them, that I touched upon in my video version of this topic.


1. The Princesses (minus Twilight) being useless again.  Now let me (IMO) tell you why this happened.  As a kid of the 80s, I've seen Hasbro do this before (Transformers : The Movie, G.I. Joe : The Movie, Etc..), and the reason they do this is to put focus on The "MANE" group of characters that the film needs to be focused on.

For if they had all 4 Princesses out and about, pretty much any fan knows that if they combined their powers, this invasion wouldn't last very long. So they had to figure out a way to basically pull a "PRIME/DUKE" moment with Celestria, Luna, and Cadance, and did so, by having Tempest use that green orb thing to turn them into glass stone.

By doing this, it puts the focus on Twilight and friends having to find a way to save the day (ala, 1986 TF MOVIE and 1987 JOE MOVIE). So for anyone that was upset by this, well hopefully I gave a good reason on why this happened.


2. Twilight acting OOC.  This seems to be a topic from the film, that has many fans up in arms.  Well, let me explain why Twilight was like this:. You see Twilight was already putting a lot of pressure on herself by putting together this first-ever Friendship Festival, then all of sudden this hostile takeover from The Storm King happens, her Mentor's and sister-in-law get turned to stone, and the only clue she has to save their home, is "hippos".  

And if that's not enough, it seems her friends weren't taking this too seriously, from trusting someone, who originally wanted to sell them into slavery to pay off a debt, to befriending pirates, by helping them get their mojo back, and then doing a Sonic Rainboom, when they shouldn't have, to finally the last straw being, that the one character that Celestria had mentioned could help, turning them down, thus causing Twilight to attempt to steal the hippogriff's transformation orb, to her friends calling her out on it, while discovering at the same time that Twilight was just using them to make Skystar "happy" so she could try and attempt the thief.

So as for Twilight acting OOC, you really can't blame her.  I mean even in real life, if someone is going through a lot and has a lot on their mind at the same time, and it takes one little moment or comment from someone to set them off, of course their going to lash out and say things that they don't really mean.  And that's exactly what Twilight did, everything just came to a boiling point, and Pinkie calling her out for what she just did, that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

But what you see afterwards (off/on screen), is both regret the blow up they had, and both sides realize that they should have worked together, not against each other.


3. The Storm King not being a good villan.  As I said in the video version of this, I think when fans see this character, they see this film's equvenlet of Starscream from Transformers.  Being a long-time fan of the Transformers, I saw Starscream as a usurper that wanted control of the Deceptions from Megatron, but was always foiled in the end, and the reason was because Starscream was shown as not being ready to yield such power or knowing what to do with it, once he had it.

That is somewhat how some fans viewed the Storm King, Tempest promised and gave him the power he craved, but he really wasn't ready for it and like Starscream in several Transformers incarnations, it cost him his life in the end.


4. Where were the other characters, like Discord, Shining Armor, etc...?,   Well since this was made around seasons 4-6, they could have been incorporated into the film.  But they (the writers) wanted the main focus to be on the MANE 6 and yes even the Newer characters.  

Besides, as I meantiond with the Princesses above, if Discord was around, we probably wouldn't have much of a takeover would we, and who's to say he didn't suffer the same fate as the 3 Princesses (but off screen), I'm just saying.  

And if you must know, this is a staple of any Hasbro and Toy-based animated features, certain characters will be involved in the film, but mostly off-screen (ex. '86 TF Film, had several Autobot deaths off-screen), so just because we don't see them doing something on-screen, doesn't mean that they aren't part of the story in someway.


But that's all have to say in this written version of what I said on video about Nitpicks some fans have with this film.


Let me know what you all think.  God Bless and Take Care

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1. That's a great reason for it. I don't get why so many people got so mad when the spoilers came around in some book and the princesses were treated like damsels in distress. If they were to use their powers, then you'd have a 5-minute movie. As much as a battle between the powers would have been awesome, it's still a series about the Mane Six, the movie followed suit. I know people want a background for them, but as far as I'm concerned it was a movie featuring the Mane Six.

2. I don't know how to put this, but I think her acting out of character is her character. (That's a really bad way to put it, but whatever...) When that arguing scene came (spoilers, lol), I kind of expected it. She was under pressure of saving her homeland, and the last thing she wanted to do is mess around with some others. Princess of Friendship title aside, anyone would act like that.

3. I thought he was a good villain, for a kids movie. What do people expect? A super dark, scary bloodsucking demon from the depths of Tartarus? It's a G movie in a PG disguise, there's not going to be some intense violence. He's meant to be more of a goofy, power-hungry bad guy. Something a kid's movie villain would be.

4. Similar to my point 1. Mane Six movie.

Overall, good assessment of these nitpicks. I don't know why people don't like it for those reasons. It's a kid's movie. Also, I don't think people have realized that we spawned this. This movie is from us. This series would not have lasted long without us. So, I'm celebrating the movie as a milestone.

We did it guys...


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Time to play devil's advocate. You can't attack criticism if you don't look from the other perspective.

1. Yes, that's obvious. But knowing why it was done doesn't mean that they have to like it. Understanding why and liking is not same. At the very least some fans expected princesses to struggle a bit more instead of being defeated by single unicorn that can't even use magic properly. Constant loosing did hurt Celestia very badly over the past few years and plenty of people see her as a disappointment. You an have main cast saving the day without worfing constantly princesses.

2. People don't like when their favorite characters do something bad. I don't think it was an OC moment but this complaint crops out all the time in episodes where star character does something bad that they wouldn't normally do.

3. Storm King had a very small screen time and that's the issue really. He only appears at the end and does standard villainous things (gloat, belittle his minions, underestimates good guys etc). I also saw some complaints that he is incompetent compared to his comic version but I would not know about that. And I really wouldn't compare him to Starscream, Storm King is actually in charge and not usurping an actual main bad guy. Act of treating minions badly after bad guy achieves his goal is common trope but is not Starscream trope (yes Starscream is infamous enough to be synonym for betraying your boss).

4 Sometimes people want to see their favorite characters, you can't blame them for that. At least a cameo or offhand mention like "Oh yeah, Discord is hibernating" or "Starlight is busy in Equestria Girls". And really off screen stuff doesn't count because that's just assumption, don't know anything about transformers feature but that was different era. And it is weird that Cadance was there and Shining Armor wasn't but my guess is he stayed back in Crystal Meth Empire with Flurry.

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One thing I was curious about was what Twilight would have done if she successfully stole the orb that transforms characters into fish/sea ponies to actually defeat the Storm King. I'm guessing it was more of an act of desperation, but I just couldn't see that being useful against him in any way unless they were going to transform him and then trap him in a pond or something.

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According to Merrian-Webster, nit-picking is incurring in minute and usually unjustified criticism.

So, really, if you start be defining these points as nitpicks, then a discussion is just pointless, because you already defined them as not important and I don't feel welcome to discuss these with you.

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1. Yes, they had to figure out some way to keep the Princesses out of the story if there was going to *be* any story. I'm even on board with the Devil Ex Machina orbs. The evil empire needed an ace up their sleeve to pull the rug out from the goddess-level ponies, something to make them a real threat. But like, come on, after Cadance got turned into stone there should have been a pile of hot ashes where Tempest was standing and three pissed-off pony princesses with smoking horns. Considering how powerful Celestia and Luna are supposed to be, Tempest should have acted quicker and tried to get them all at once in a surprise attack, with Twilight alone getting saved by some fluke. Celestia shouldn't have been telling Luna to go get help, she should have been telling her to blast the evil crippled unicorn with a horn-beam. End problem.

2. Didn't any of the Remane 5 wonder why Twilight was just going to hang back in the empty throne room? She gave no reason why she was staying behind. And the rest of them just left her there! And, and Queen Nova changed her mind about giving these strangers her kingdom's most precious treasure and the foundation of their civilization because they sang a song? That wasn't even really about anything? And why was the assumption that the pearl could transform ponies into any form they wanted instead of specifically fish-horses, why was that just taken for granted?

3. Holy shit, the Storm King just straight-up died. No ambiguous blasting off into the horizon here, he fuckin' fell of a balcony and shattered into little pieces. Harsh. He seemed more immature and selfish than truly evil. He didn't even kill anyone.

4. It takes one line of exposition to explain why a character isn't in the movie. All they had to do was have somepony say, "Discord? He's on a month-long backpacking trip in Dimension Q, he said he really needed to 'find himself' ". And then it's not a plot hole. But they didn't do that, and so it's a plot hole.

If I saw this movie as a kid, I would have loved it to pieces. I'm glad they made it. I really wish they had polished the story a little more so certain things made sense, and none of the adventure destinations got enough screen time to amount to anything, but the movie exists, for what it's worth. It looked really pretty. I bet the kids liked it. I liked the parts where I wasn't going "WTF, really?"

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